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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#39676: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:05:11 AM

[up][up]It is Marvel, for sure. The movie was even in production for a while, but it is shelved for now. I do wonder what they would need to do with Molly, though. Like, can they just use her and invent another origins? Or is she specifically in the X-Men package, even if the other Runaways are not? Similar question with Xavin.

edited 1st Aug '15 10:05:27 AM by Heatth

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#39677: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:07:28 AM

Molly will have to be turned into something else but a Mutant, but it's not like she was ever an X-Man so that shouldn't be a problem.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#39678: Aug 1st 2015 at 10:37:54 AM

@The Taskmaster movie article.

That's is pretty vague - even considering that the article was released five years ago about an event that happened "a few years ago" by its own standards, it's not about Fox releasing a Taskmaster movie, it's about a director who typically works with Fox that wanted to make a Taskmaster movie a long time ago. Very little is actually said about how far the project went or even what it was.

Remember that it was just when the Marvel Cinematic Universe was starting to spread out - Captain America 1 wasn't even out yet, and people weren't really cracking down or focusing on where everybody was rights-wise. That was more of a "at one point the director of A-Team wanted to make a Taskmaster movie, isn't that interesting" article.

edited 1st Aug '15 10:38:42 AM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#39679: Aug 1st 2015 at 11:09:27 AM

Yeah "I want to make that movie" isn't really conclusive. I remember the director of the two Chris Evans Fantastic Four movies saying he wanted to introduce Black Panther and She-Hulk in future sequels, even though it later turned out Fox doesn't have the rights to either of those characters.

The Molly thing really depends on whether the Fox/Marvel rights split specifies X-Men characters or mutants in general. I'm inclined to think it's the former just because there are obviously non-mutant properties related to the X-Men (Moira Mactaggert and William Stryker) who have played big parts in the movies. Molly has no connection to the X-Men so she should be fine.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#39680: Aug 1st 2015 at 11:39:47 AM

hnmm. Can Taskmasker sustain his own movie? I rather see a Venom movie

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#39681: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:07:37 PM

Taskmaster's more of a persistent Heavy anyway - he himself rarely has major villainous aspirations, but as the main agent for the Big Bad's organization he is a major draw of attention. At least, that's how he would be optimally written - it's the same basic role Darth Vader had.

It depends on the role. If taken at face value, I don't think Venom could carry a movie either. Given the right writer, with the right characterization and adequate set-up in other moves to make his story work, however? Sure.

I do think Taskmaster's strengths would be perfect for something like Agents Of SHIELD, though, since he could be a running threat for an entire season, while is True Neutral tendencies would foil better with someone like Coulson or May than they would for someone whose view is more straightforward like Cap's.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#39682: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:10:15 PM

Sony has been trying to make a Venom spin-off for years. Ironically Channing Tatum was even being looked at to do one before he passed to do Gambit instead.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39683: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:17:44 PM

One step after another. They first have to manage a reasonable successful Spider-man reboot.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#39684: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:27:02 PM

Or they could just stop forcing Spider-Man on us.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#39685: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:31:35 PM

i'd be alright with no spider-man for a while personally.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#39686: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:32:24 PM

yeah, same.

inb4 splash......

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#39687: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:36:02 PM

Same.

(This thread moves in circles huh?)

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#39689: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:40:18 PM

So how about that Doctor Doom?

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#39690: Aug 1st 2015 at 2:45:04 PM

inb4 splash......

Were you referring to me and just spelled my name wrong?

I mean, I do want to see a good Spider-Man movie, so maybe you are talking about me, I don't know. What can I say? I'm a huge Spider-Man fan.

edited 1st Aug '15 2:45:25 PM by spashthebandragon

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#39692: Aug 1st 2015 at 3:44:37 PM

Luke Cage's rouges...

Chemistro - Info: Three men have worn the mantle of Chemistro and all have battled Luke Cage. Chemistro may be Cage's most reoccurring villain. Powers/Abilities: Alchemy gun that can transmute matter from one form into another.

Willis Stryker - Info: The former best freind of Cage becomes his bitter enemy as they battle on the roof tops above New York City. Powers/Abilities: Excellent knivesmen.

Mr Fish - Info: Mr Fish may sound silly but with his immense strength was once able to defeat Cage. No one laughs at Mr Fish! Powers/Abilities: Has the appearance of a fish and above human strength.

Cheshire Cat - Info: When the secretive, snoopy disappearing villain known as Cheshire appears trouble is bound to follow. Powers/Abilities: Invisibility.

Comanche - Info: Former fellow member of the Rivals now foe. Powers/Abilities: Uses American Indian weapons.

Shades - Info: Former fellow member of the Rivals now foe. Powers/Abilities: Laser beam googles.

Cockroach Hamilton - Info: A street enforcer whose gun carries a special punch. Powers/Abilities: Uses a powerful shotgun.

Magnum - Info: Apocalypse gives an Ethiopia arms dealer a superpowered suit. Powers/Abilities: Seismic powers enabled through the suit.

Spear - Info: A Seagate inmate who wants revenge against Luke Cage after he turned him in. Powers/Abilities: High-tech spear gun.

Purple Man - Info: Just watch Jessica Jones. Powers/Abilities: Just watch Jessica Jones.

Really all these guys are very silly, so seeing them in more serious light will be interesting.

edited 1st Aug '15 3:49:33 PM by xbimpy

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#39693: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:06:22 PM

@mutants and the MCU

I believe there's been several mutants on AOS. They're just not allowed to say they are.

And yeah I don't really care about the new Spider-Man reboot.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#39694: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:13:04 PM

[up][up]

Stryker? Any relation to Stryker the X-Men villain?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#39695: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:19:25 PM

Just a case of Names The Same. I think Diamondback was even around before the much better known Stryker.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#39696: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:40:38 PM

His alias is Diamondback but his real name is Willis Stryker and him along with the other two formed a gang that Luke Cage was once apart of. The Harlem Rivals.

[up][up][up] Mutants do not exist in the MCU. Inhumans do. Everyone born on Earth with an active X-Gene will automatically become a mutant. X-Genes are just a mutation in human DNA because thats what the story says though in Earth X series Celetsrials had a hand in it. meanwhile, Kree act as Ancient Aliens who experimented on cave men, therefore we have hybrids called Inhuamns. They can only transform if undergo terrigenesis. Unlike Mutants, Inhumans are all about their own culture govemrent and society that exist separate from the rest of humanity. In that sense they are different from Mutants.

Then there are Mutautes, anyone who gained powers from a source that was never implanted in them before birth, for example Spider Man or Hulk.

edited 1st Aug '15 6:03:34 PM by xbimpy

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#39698: Aug 1st 2015 at 4:50:21 PM

Well, I think it'd be a shame if they gave up on Spider-Man movies when we haven't gotten one that's quite "right" yet.

Besides, you can't say superhero movies haven't already seen a huge increase in variety since the Tobey Maguire days. They can make Spider-Man movies while still giving movies to other superheroes who haven't had the spotlight yet.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#39699: Aug 1st 2015 at 5:11:15 PM

[up][up][up] Not the Inhumans, I mean people like Scorch who are referred to as "Gifted". It seems like they can have mutants, but they just can't call them that.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#39700: Aug 1st 2015 at 5:12:59 PM

I think Spidey needs a break from Hollywood for a while . We just had a Spidey movie just over a year ago. But here we are with another reboot. Sigh...

edited 1st Aug '15 5:14:27 PM by higherbrainpattern


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