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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
To put it blunly: civil war have a very american take on the concept, since the whole think was suposed to be the comic version of 9/11: a big thing that change everything and divded opinions(at least until the writer themselves star to fight about it and ruin the whole thing), so in this context, draft=evil as tobias point out
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So you're saying Civil War is going to be followed by the first ever official MCU porno?
...BRING ON THE WAR!
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.I figured that came from still being a bunch of solo heroes at their core (which is interesting, because that's more what the Justice League is known for). While they're capable of acting as a team, all of them - especially Thor and Iron Man - have a kind of mindset that it's their responsibility to take care of everything they can and will do anything from saving civilians to fighting supervillains, even if someone else is on it, unless they have something specific that needs doing.
Sort of like how in Avengers 1, Cap gave them all specific orders but once they did that for a bit all of them kind of broke off and did their own thing instead. The only person who stuck to what they were supposed to do was Hawkeye, who only stopped when he was physically incapable of doing it any more.
edited 28th Jul '15 1:41:03 PM by KnownUnknown
Well, Hulk also did what he was told. He smashed Thor momentarily.
And Iron Man followed Cap's orders by taking direction from Hawkeye via their magical invisible headsets.
Cap's orders were only long term assignments for some of them, and he delegated any deviations from the plan to Hawkeye, who was in the best position and with the best ability to see changes. Of course, thanks to the magic of no-budget invisible headsets and low-budget Iron Man HUD, we just didn't see that in action as much.
One thing that Age of Ultron did well was show specific teamwork moves.
edited 28th Jul '15 1:53:29 PM by wanderlustwarrior
Just want to point out, for anyone who's still concerned that the movie SHRA will involve secret identities, Feige already Jossed that immediately after the film was announced. And with the same reasoning that's already been pointed out a ton: the movie superheroes as a rule don't even have "secret identities" for the most part. And I think the official press announcements indicated the SHRA will be putting limitations on existing heroes' agency to prevent more violence, not drafting them (which would probably cause more).
The explicit description we have is.
So basically, the Avengers have successfully privatized world peace, but in doing so, they've made the world nervous which has caused both their motives and competency to be called into question.
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In one of the Avengers/Thunderbolts crossovers, I've heard.
He wants to make amends to Captain America by taking over the world and giving it to Cap.
edited 28th Jul '15 3:40:22 PM by Bocaj
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Yeah. Basically. There was one point where he had an actual Heel–Face Turn, but what's more important I think is that his horrendously evil behavior tends to have good motivations (or at least what he thinks of as good).
Like for example (going off of second hand comments; haven't read the Brubaker story), the original story that introduce's the Janice Lincoln Beetle has her working for Zemo and (as I understand it) administering some kind of nanobomb to Bucky so that he'll end up as an unwitting suicide bomber and blow up SHIELD. Obviously not a very nice thing to do. The problem is, the original arc has Zemo doing it because he's an evil Nazi, and he was sort of a good guy at this point in the comics. While played for laughs, the retconned version in Superior Foes of Spider-Man has it that Zemo wants the world to know that Bucky was the Winter Soldier and did bad stuff because he's angry that no one gives credit to his attempts to reform. Still horrendously evil, but the point is that Zemo thinks of himself as a good guy.
Wasn't Zemo "good" during Moonstoned and Heroic Age? He told Songbird he would save the world, but in that moment she would have also betrayed him. She did it anyway after being told this fact, thus leaving Zemo in the time stream. Then he learned Bucky became Captain America once he came back. He felt ashamed Bucky could still be considered a hero despite all past sins. Zemo let Bucky escape back to America where the govemrent awaited to put him on trail.
However, none of this takes away his megalomaniac behavior. He is still heartless. He wants nothing more than revenge against Captain America. Lucky unlike nearly every Hydra leader done thus far, he is more patient, forward-thinking, and innovative to plan and accomplish his schemes. It's a matter of adapting that part into live action. I doubt Marvel will give us someone more savvy than Loki. It doesn't take a genius to see the movies lack a rouge who leaves a huge impact on the Avenger's PR status.
edited 28th Jul '15 4:39:56 PM by xbimpy
It's also worth noting that Zemo eventually got a new, beautiful face, but then gave it up in a Heroic Sacrifice to save Steve.
He's someone who WANTS to be a hero and thinks of himself as one, the problem is he's also an arrogant dickhead who thinks the rest of the world is too stupid to be left without his control.
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Sounds like Doctor Doom. I was already thinking about Doomworld and the Panther God earlier in the thread.
edited 28th Jul '15 4:39:40 PM by wanderlustwarrior
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Grandson, which is who I assumed would be in the films, given Daniel Bruhl's age. I should have mentioned in my original post that it is possible that the MCU version will be like the EMH one- a composite that is styled along the lines of the younger Zemo, but is completely irredeemably evil like the older Zemo.
edited 28th Jul '15 4:42:50 PM by Hodor2

In fairness, a draft creates baby boomers.
Nobody wants to see that happen again.
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