Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules
still apply.
- This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
- While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread
. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
- Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.
If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.
Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Another thing to consider with the Spider-Man reboot is that in addition to skipping the origin story with the deal with Marvel they now have access to all the Marvel villains who aren't licensed out to Fox rather then just the Spider-Man specific ones. So instead of the Green Goblin, he could fight Ulysses Klaw, Baron Zemo, or freaking Stilt Man.
With the reboot they could always bring back Electro down the road. Although given that the Iron Man suit can absorb and power itself with lightning, I'm not sure if Electro could be a meaningful threat to Iron Man....Though if he can also absorb the Iron Man's suit's energy blasts, things could get pretty ludicrous pretty fast.
edited 26th Jul '15 3:37:14 PM by Falrinn
"So instead of the Green Goblin, he could fight Ulysses Klaw, Baron Zemo, or freaking Stilt Man."
... I don't know, the show I know the most for making Spidey fight other villains than his classic isn't exactly in my favourite...
Still, I stand by my point none of the movies really has covered everything there is with Spider-Man. There are other things they could adapt.
The comic where he primarily fights villains from other rogues galleries
is remembered for being Crazy Awesome.
edited 26th Jul '15 4:12:23 PM by comicwriter
Ha! I am so happy that I was right about Ant-man being able to hold onto spot one for a second week due to a poor showing of Pixels. Everyone predicted the opposite. (And hopefully it will make the people who claim that Ant-man is a disappointment in the box office shut up).
Upon rewatching Ant-man, I have a couple of questions/thoughts....
Do Pym particle make crazy just from standing beside them? Or why was Cross so crazy...you apparently don't get crazy from using the suit, because the helmet is supposed to protect you (though why wasn't Hank then able to use it anymore?) Was Cross' craziness the result of frying too many sheep? Also...in which city is the story set? Somewhere in California?
So, Morgan Freeman's a bloodsucking fiend? Didn't think he had it in him.
edited 26th Jul '15 5:00:17 PM by kkhohoho
Though on second though, that's not so crazy. Though whenever Morgan Freeman plays a villain it's usually a character Playing Against Type (outwardly cruel, vicious, boisterous, etc), Dracula might be the perfect kind of villain for his usual acting - calm, charming but with gravitas, the ability to hypnotize others with his voice...
edited 26th Jul '15 5:04:38 PM by KnownUnknown
@ Theokal3: I'm gonna go on a limb and guess one of those storylines is Maximum Carnage—
(*gets shot. In the leg.*)
Oh, that's gonna be sore tomorrow.
@Cross: Unlike the techs we see working on the yellow Pym Particles, he's not wearing protection gear. And he used the particles to kill that one guy in the bathroom. I guess even if he didn't get enough on him to make him shrink, he was still being exposed to it? And dude wasn't entirely stable to start with.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAnt-Man was the real test of whether Marvel was able to adapt more than what they already had.
Guardians was always going to be a crowd pleaser, given its space opera scale and spectacle (especially since it isn't really a "superhero" movie and wasn't marketed as one - when it comes to superheroes, people are still very traditional even thought he climate is trying to change) - even if didn't do well or people were turned off by the unknown characters, it was unlikely to do poorly.
Ant-Man was a small scale movie with a very straightforward superhero plot, starring a character with a power that typically gets laughed at by the public as being "worthless" (some of the pre-release stuff, like the interview with Letterman and even the trailers, even played that up), a name that is liable to get laughed at for the same reasons (and the trailers played that one up to no end), and a character who is infamous for something that could've easily caused a knee-jerk backlash when the movie was released.
This was the movie that really proved to me that Marvel could handle risky new introductions and brand new faces to use to build up the universe: Scott's the first new headliner in a while that will truly interact with the universe as we usually see it, since while the Guardians are in the MCU, their adventures are intentionally very separate from everyone else's.
edited 26th Jul '15 5:47:11 PM by KnownUnknown
With the success of this film I think it's clear that Marvel isn't going to have too much trouble lasting until their current slate of films have been released. I'm kind of curious what they'll do after though. I'd prefer it if they had a concrete plan for ending the franchise instead of letting it crash and burn.
The next big test is probably going to be after Infinity War, since that's what the entire universe has been leading up to for years. Once that's done, they're going to need to figure out how to keep the universe flowing and the interest going without feeling like some kind of Franchise Zombie.
Nor do I.
I think having an ending in mind is the best possible choice. Actors will get older, ideas will get old, and people will get bored.
The Marvel Cinematic Universe is a massive Adaptation Distillation anyway, taking all the best parts of the different interpretations and eras of Marvel, but it can do the one thing the comic never can: it can end, and on a high note if they do it right.
And it should too. Go on too long, and it will start getting stale. They can come back again when the time is right.
One Strip! One Strip!

I expect it and Doctor Strange to be my "Incredible Hulk" of Phase 3.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."