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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#39151: Jul 26th 2015 at 9:39:26 AM

On the "Evil President" issue, we also have already had Alexander Pierce. MCU!Pierce is sort of a composite of Pierce in the comics, Aleksander Lukin, and "Dell Rusk", but the end result (especially with the casting of Robert Redford) is a character who covers that idea of "seemingly honorable politician who is actually HYDRA".

Also, due to the reveal in Winter Soldier, I'd think that Peggy can't be allowed to find out that there are HYDRA infiltrators, even if the audience is clued in.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#39152: Jul 26th 2015 at 9:49:52 AM

[up]And that's fine. If she can't find out about Hydra infiltrators, then she can't find out about Hydra infiltrators. But there's nothing saying she can't find out about Secret Empire infiltrators, if Marvel chooses to bring them in.

edited 26th Jul '15 9:50:18 AM by kkhohoho

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#39153: Jul 26th 2015 at 9:54:01 AM

Besides, Hydra's infiltration is still in its infancy at the time of Agent Carter - there's nothing to find at the moment.

Oh God! Natural light!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39154: Jul 26th 2015 at 10:09:22 AM

I think it would be neat if there was a subplot with another character that involves them finding out about Hydra and being killed before they can warn her.

edited 26th Jul '15 10:09:37 AM by Kostya

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#39155: Jul 26th 2015 at 10:17:42 AM

Well, the best choice for that would actually be Howard Stark.

It can be another reason Hydra kills him. Or it can be the main reason.

One Strip! One Strip!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39156: Jul 26th 2015 at 10:38:17 AM

That would have to happen late in Howard and Peggy's lives. He doesn't die until 91. She'd have retired from fieldwork and would serve only in an administrative role by then.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#39157: Jul 26th 2015 at 10:38:59 AM

That would go to the 90s though, and so far AC is still in the late-40s.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39159: Jul 26th 2015 at 11:48:43 AM

[up] So the co-writers of the new Vacation are the official writers of the next Spidey movie? Marvel must be pretty darn confident since, to the best of my knowledge, that movie still hasn't shown up yet.

Also, Ant-Man reigns supreme over Stupid Sandler's "Pixels". evil grin

edited 26th Jul '15 11:49:14 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#39160: Jul 26th 2015 at 11:50:41 AM

[up]Well Done Ant-Man! [tup]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#39161: Jul 26th 2015 at 11:53:58 AM

[up][up]They also wrote Horrible Bosses, The Incredible Burt Wonderstone, and Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs 2, so it's not like they're unproven. Vacation is in the headlines since it's fresh on everyone's minds.

edited 26th Jul '15 11:54:19 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39162: Jul 26th 2015 at 11:55:02 AM

Um, do people even refer to Adam Sandler as "Stupid Sandler"? I kinda came up with it myself and I guess it sort of stuck thanks to Added Alliterative Appeal...

[up] Are any of those good? I kinda haven't seen those myself...

edited 26th Jul '15 11:57:44 AM by TargetmasterJoe

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#39163: Jul 26th 2015 at 11:55:19 AM

[nja] Vacation isn't actually the first film they've co-written: they've also written Horrible Bosses, Horrible Bosses 2, and The Incredible Burt Wonderstone. Now, I've never actually seen any of those movies (although I heard the Bosses movies were funny and the Incredible Burt Wonderstone...wasn't), but it seems like Marvel is trying to making the Spider-Man movie a bit more comedic, probably as a sort of teen comedy-drama.

edited 26th Jul '15 11:55:37 AM by alliterator

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#39164: Jul 26th 2015 at 12:32:30 PM

Spider-Man as a teen comedy? Oh wow. Kinda surprised that Judd Apatow's not involved in this, then.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39165: Jul 26th 2015 at 12:34:34 PM

[up] Well, it kinda makes sense since Spider-Man has, to the best of my knowledge, always been among the more funner (is that even a word?) side of the Marvel Universe.

wild mass guess If they reveal how Spider-Man will appear in Civil War at D23, it'll be Tom Holland in the suit doing a sort-of replication of that part in "Civil War" (the comic event) when Spidey unmasked himself in public. wild mass guess

edited 26th Jul '15 12:36:29 PM by TargetmasterJoe

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#39167: Jul 26th 2015 at 1:21:01 PM

Glad to see Antman is so successful^^ I had huge expectations for his movie, and I am really happy it lived up to themgrin

As for the Spider-Man reboot... I don't know, it's too soon to judge right now. I just hope they don't push the teen comedy angle too far, because I usually hate this kind of movie, what with all the clichés in it that doesn't match real life in anyway.

Izeinsummer Since: Jun, 2013
#39168: Jul 26th 2015 at 1:27:57 PM

.. Speaking of fatigue.. I'm not feeling it towards the marvel universe. But Spiderman? At this point, I greet every new incarnation with "Eh.. haven't I seen this movie before"? Couldn't they do spidergwen instead? Or at least *not* do an origin story?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#39169: Jul 26th 2015 at 1:32:37 PM

I've got Hype Fatigue to the MCU, but Spider Man is making me fatigued for comic book movies in general. I feel like some Jameson/Osborn hybrid, I want to get rid of Spider-Man that much. And, thanks to him, we have to wait longer to see characters I actually care about, like Black Panther and Captain Marvel.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#39170: Jul 26th 2015 at 2:20:42 PM

About spiderman...I really hate the need of a third one considering the death of gwen stacy, I feel like "ingore everything you see, THIS is spider, no the other!" ugh

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#39171: Jul 26th 2015 at 2:26:20 PM

I just don't want to see Spider-Man on the Avengers.

Too bad the whole movie thing will probably prevent him from showing up on the Netflix shows. Spidey would fit perfectly in the MCU Defenders.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#39172: Jul 26th 2015 at 2:33:27 PM

Yeaaaaah, I disagree with you guys. I honestly want to see Spider-Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and as long as they actually do something new with him, I am fine with a new reboot. Plus, they pretty much confirmed they would skip his origin story this time; remember, he is apparently already active according to Antman, and he will be introduced in Civil War. Unless the new movie is a prequel, I think we're safe.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#39173: Jul 26th 2015 at 3:04:38 PM

It's gonna be hard. Both Spidey movie series have to some extent covered all the most important beats.

What exactly is there that's left to do.

One Strip! One Strip!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#39174: Jul 26th 2015 at 3:07:46 PM

Until I see something worth seeing, I'm outright skipping the 2nd Spider-Man reboot.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#39175: Jul 26th 2015 at 3:14:15 PM

[up][up]Quite a lot, actually. I already listed a few storylines they could potentially adapt.


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