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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#39126: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:01:11 PM

[up]Janet saved Quicksilver from the worst of his injuries and took him to recover....somewhere in secret. For now, let's say it was Wakanda.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#39128: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:04:41 PM

[up][tup][awesome]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#39129: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:37:13 PM

From the moment Hank mentioned that the Quantum Realm was "beyond space and time," it was pretty much clinched that Janet is still alive, stuck in the Quantum Realm all this time - the realm being beyond time solving the whole "decades without eating or drinking" issue.

Of course, that would mean that Janet is trapped eternally shrinking away in an incomprehensible realm that files away your very sense of awareness, and has been for years, but I'm sure she'll be fine... ish. After all, what's the Marvel universe without characters being trapped in hellish, inescapable situations for years at a time, being rescued and then going back to heroing within the year.

edited 25th Jul '15 8:37:57 PM by KnownUnknown

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#39130: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:39:59 PM

[up]If Scott couldn't remember his time in the Quantum Realm, presumably Janet won't either once she's saved.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#39131: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:42:20 PM

The main issue would probably be that she should still be young (though I wouldn't be surprised if Marvel doesn't do so), while her daughter is all grown up and is recovering from extreme bitterness, and her husband has turned into an obsessed hermit without her.

edited 25th Jul '15 8:42:41 PM by KnownUnknown

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#39132: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:43:33 PM

Ah, dammit, they totally did it this way so they wouldn't have to cast a middle-aged woman as her later, didn't they.

Fucking Hollywood.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#39133: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:45:45 PM

That's... what?

Michael Douglas has suggested that Catherine Zeta Jones be cast as Janet. I could see it.

Anywho, I figure this could be one of the ways that the Time Gem plays into future stories.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#39134: Jul 25th 2015 at 9:09:48 PM

[up]

Makes sense.

Nothing on my previous post? Sorry to suck in the conversation like a black hole, but I figure I gotta prove him wrong, or accept he may be on to something.

One Strip! One Strip!
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#39135: Jul 25th 2015 at 9:26:17 PM

[up]It's possible that Fury may suspect that there's some sort of infinitely powerful (see what I did there?) artifact or doodad out there, considering that the Tesseract was one such artifact or doodad, but I don't think he knows that they're specifically the Infinity Gems, no. Even a Bad Ass Samuel L.Jackson character has his limits, and Fury's is that, for all of his intel, he's never really been out into space. (In this continuity, anyway...) When you're stuck on Earth, you only know so much.

edited 25th Jul '15 9:31:51 PM by kkhohoho

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#39136: Jul 25th 2015 at 9:28:42 PM

Yeah. That's what I said.

I do admit, that he might be smart enough to consider there's more out there than just the Tesseract. He was smart enough to cotton on to Loki not being an actual representative of Asgard.

But yeah, it's hard to know what's going on in space when you ain't from space.

One Strip! One Strip!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#39137: Jul 25th 2015 at 9:44:05 PM

Re: the President as a supervillain in Agent Carter.

That actually wouldn't be the first time the President was a villain on a television show: 24 had a much celebrated arc where the President was shown to be a villain and have arranged much of the bad things that happened that day.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#39138: Jul 25th 2015 at 10:32:06 PM

[up]Sure. Though I doubt said President was an actual real-life historical figure. Making someone up oughta' make things just a tad more palatable to the general public.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#39139: Jul 25th 2015 at 11:36:24 PM

Could Janet make an appearance in Doctor Strange?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#39140: Jul 26th 2015 at 1:17:04 AM

In all seriousness, Truman isn't really the best man for the "Evil President" shtick. Nixon rose to prominence during the Red Scare, though, so that's worth considering.

Although as a longtime U.S. President trivia nerd, having a "The Buck Stops Here" one-liner would probably sell the idea to me on that alone.

edited 26th Jul '15 1:17:26 AM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39141: Jul 26th 2015 at 1:34:17 AM

I certainly hope that they will address the red scare next season weather they use this particular storyline or not. California is certainly the perfect place to be during that period.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#39142: Jul 26th 2015 at 4:30:52 AM

You could make Truman the Red Herring, and make the actual supervillain president turn out to be FDR, who faked his death to operate from the shadows, and is using Truman as his puppet.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#39143: Jul 26th 2015 at 5:19:11 AM

[up] I think making any historical president an outright villain is going to be problematic. Especially someone like FDR who, while he certainly has his detractors, is generally remembered fondly given that he lead the country out of the Great Depression and through a majority of WW 2.

My suggestion would be to make Truman a red herring, and have the real leader of the Secret Empire be someone who has the President's ear but is much more directly connected to Peggy. Specifically the director of the SSR.

Bringing down the Secret Empire could then also cause the SSR to be disbanded in favor of SHIELD.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39144: Jul 26th 2015 at 6:16:48 AM

I'm hoping a certain lady◊ shows up in some way.

Before I clicked that link, I thought you were referring to the Enchantress. tongue

@ "Marvel Fatigue": yeah, no. I ain't feeling it. In fact, to this day, i still haven't watched season 2 of Agents of SHIELD. (Only because I got my sister into the show (even though I got into it way before her and she's balancing watching that and The X-Files on Netflix. Don't worry though, she's already past the part where we find out that Ward was in cahoots with HYDRA) and I kinda don't want her to see season 2 without finishing up season 1.)

...Though in hindsight, that may be a really silly reason not to see season 2 at this point. tongue

edited 26th Jul '15 6:17:07 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#39145: Jul 26th 2015 at 7:21:52 AM

Regarding evil presidential types, considering the Veep from Iron Man 3 there's an argument to be made (ideally by someone who isn't lazy like me tongue ) that it would be a "been there, done that" kind of thing.

edited 26th Jul '15 7:22:36 AM by Nohbody

All your safe space are belong to Trump
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#39146: Jul 26th 2015 at 7:22:47 AM

well if it wasn't with iron man 3 it is now with darren cross in ant man.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39147: Jul 26th 2015 at 7:24:03 AM

A VP isn't quite the same thing as a president though. The guy in Iron Man 3 was also somewhat sympathetic instead of being a flat out supvervillain.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#39148: Jul 26th 2015 at 8:39:03 AM

@Handsome Rob: I had seen that theory before, but I don't remember any argument to support it. Fury knows a lot isn't enough, I think. Uh... the rest of the train of thought I had for this post crashed and now I've lost it ._. Oh, well...

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#39149: Jul 26th 2015 at 8:57:30 AM

[up]Yeah. That's what I'm thinking as well.

There's just no way he could know.

One Strip! One Strip!
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#39150: Jul 26th 2015 at 9:08:43 AM

[up]Yeah, same here. Unless, of course, they adopted Original Sin— {Is shot.}


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