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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#39026: Jul 24th 2015 at 3:11:32 PM

Friendship? Harry was using Max. That's all there was to it.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39027: Jul 24th 2015 at 3:36:48 PM

Speaking of Spidey, there's been some word about mysterious pictures on Twitter that may or may not be some hints towards what Spidey's suit will look like.

Actually, I don't know if anyone knew about this already, but the D23 expo will talk about a lot of Disney stuff, including Captain America: Civil War.

Methinks we'll finally see what Spider-Man will look like then?

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#39028: Jul 24th 2015 at 4:05:21 PM

[up][up][up][up] I still remember watching the scene where Captain Stacy died in ASM and one of the first thoughts in my head was "Oh shit, we're gonna kill Gwen off in the next one, aren't we? Kinda rushing this a bit."

In a way, it's good that we have a cinematic version of The Night Gwen Stacy Died. There shouldn't be any problems with jumping straight to Spider Gwen then.

edited 24th Jul '15 4:06:13 PM by Watchtower

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#39029: Jul 24th 2015 at 5:26:18 PM

[up][up] Well, I'd take that as a grain of salt, since James Gunn said on his Twitter that the Russo Brothers don't even have social media. But I suppose if we're going to get anything official anytime soon, it'll be at D23.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#39030: Jul 24th 2015 at 5:38:54 PM

@windleopard: I know. What I mean, I found their interactions amusing.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#39031: Jul 24th 2015 at 5:53:38 PM

I still have to wonder high profile Disney execs are following that account then if it's not real. Maybe they're keeping an eye on it in case it tries anything funny.

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#39032: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:38:34 PM

So, having now actually seen Ant-Man, in theaters, rather than rolling with whatever spoilers came my way...

Am I the only one who thinks the higher-ups are lying about Hope becoming the Wasp? Or at least, staying the Wasp? Between the scene of her controlling the ants, and the (to me) vaguely ominous music in the mid-credits scene, I could easily see her going crazy and becoming the Red Queen. With Janet possibly still alive (maybe even still young because Quantum gobbledegook) they could even still have a Wasp.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#39033: Jul 24th 2015 at 10:40:22 PM

I don't think they're gonna make Hank and Janet have to fight their own daughter.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#39034: Jul 24th 2015 at 11:31:15 PM

Maybe Hope will become the new Yellowjacket and redeem the name after they rescue Janet. tongue

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39035: Jul 25th 2015 at 12:08:19 AM

We'll see. The story-telling possibilities are certainly interesting.

Let's hope that Ant-Man keeps going at the box office. The kind of movies we'll get in phase 4 will largely depend on how well the ones in phase 3 did.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#39036: Jul 25th 2015 at 12:54:01 AM

I'd rather have Hope stay good, thanks.

edited 25th Jul '15 12:54:15 AM by higherbrainpattern

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39037: Jul 25th 2015 at 1:15:45 AM

The theme came up in the Dawn of Justice threat: Good action scenes. Though, which are the best ones in the MCU? Excluding Ant-man (because, well, spoilers) the ones which stood out to me the most are:

Cap jumping over the explosion in CA 1

The Battle of New York

The Sky Jumping scene in Iron Man 3 (easily the best moment of the whole movie)

The battle through the realms in The Dark World

The Elevator Fight and the Battle on the Bridge in The Winter Soldier (Though all action scenes in this movie are awesome)

Every action scene in Got G, but especially the fight in the prison, on Knowwhere and the battle of Xandar

The battle for Sokovia

edited 25th Jul '15 1:17:28 AM by Swanpride

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#39038: Jul 25th 2015 at 1:29:18 AM

The entire Lemurian Star sequence in Winter Soldier is great.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#39039: Jul 25th 2015 at 1:53:09 AM

I thought the fight against the Ice Giants in Thor 1 was pretty enjoyable. The Dark World on the other hand should be some sort of anti-nomination as every single fight scene outside of Freya's was pure Narm.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#39040: Jul 25th 2015 at 1:55:49 AM

not many people seem to think dark world was much good in general.

personally i think thor 1 was one of marvel's weakest films, so i never bothered seeing the sequel.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#39041: Jul 25th 2015 at 2:12:32 AM

Thor 1 was great. Kenneth Branagh did a really great job in making me care about the characters. And Thor was just charming as hell.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39042: Jul 25th 2015 at 3:06:38 AM

I think Thor 1 had one very strong storyline (Loki) and one really weak one (Thor).

I kind of liked the idea of fighting through different realms in The Dark World, but yeah, I think I scratch it from the list. The execution was really weak.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#39043: Jul 25th 2015 at 5:18:54 AM

I thought Dark World's portal battle was really awesome because that could have easily been a complete slug fest for desescution porn. it was different. and Frigga's funeral WAS THE MOST EPIC THING EVER

edited 25th Jul '15 5:20:07 AM by xbimpy

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39044: Jul 25th 2015 at 5:24:51 AM

The funeral was my favourite scene of the whole movie. It is one of the few reasons it's watchable.

xbimpy Since: Jul, 2015
#39045: Jul 25th 2015 at 5:54:19 AM

yep it was WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL ASGARD IS. Really Thor: Dark World offered more settings than Thor and the director made these settings pretty lived in to a degree that overshadows Thor. During Thor, the tranisastion between New Mexico and Asgard didn't seem as impressive as what happened in its sequel. The latter really emphasis on the otherness of these realms, but also the mundane nature to the inhabits who live there. I wish that dinner scene table wasn't cut. Now I just wanna learn the history behind A, B, and C realm. But obviously not enough time for that...

edited 25th Jul '15 6:00:33 AM by xbimpy

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#39046: Jul 25th 2015 at 6:06:40 AM

"The Dark World" should have been set entirely elsewhere instead of forcefully tying it back to earth. Especially since that would have been a perfect explanation for the absence of the Avengers, and the opportunity to go creative with the CGI. They could have given us a glimpse on all the nine worlds.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#39047: Jul 25th 2015 at 6:13:46 AM

I really hope Thor Ragnarok just cuts out Earth entirely and either writes out Thor's human friends or has them travel to Asgard. I'd just like at least one movie set entirely on Asgard before the trilogy's over (Assuming there won't be a Thor 4, which... there really doesn't need to be).

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#39048: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:32:48 AM

Studios don't like needlessly throwing away money like that. The whole reason Thor 1 and 2 had so many Earth scenes is because it was much easier on the budget.

GOTG had a much easier justification since the comics take place almost exclusively in space, but for Thor, who spends a lot of time on Earth and has a human love interest, you're going to have a much harder time convincing Disney to cough up the change like that.

And even then GOTG had the excuse that their lead protagonist is a "reltable" human from Earth, so even if they didn't have it set on Earth they still had an Audience Surrogate.

edited 25th Jul '15 8:33:26 AM by comicwriter

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#39049: Jul 25th 2015 at 8:47:49 AM

[up] I think what's more important than the movie as a whole taking place on Asgarde is for the movie's conflict to take place entirely on Asgarde.

So maybe there's a visit to Earth while things are still falling into place (and to get some of Thor's human friends to Asgarde) and maybe at the end of the movie depending on how things work out. But there should be minimal fighting on Earth this time around.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#39050: Jul 25th 2015 at 9:03:45 AM

Yeah that's what I think as well.


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