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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
This might just be me, but I'd rather Flash not show up at all. I mean, what's he going to contribute? A-hole bully? Yawn. Personally, I would leave him out of the film except for a line or two that his actions got him sent to a military school. This would leave more room to focus on Peter and his being Spider-Man without wasting time on a douchebag bully. This would have the further benefit of having Flash's character development take place off-screen so if he does show up, he'll have an actual personality.
I'd just rather have that than the Karma Houdini from Spectacular and Ultimate cartoons.
Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Actually, in the comics, Flash has quite a lot of character development. He redeems himself, becomes a close friend of Peter, then later loses his legs in the military and bonds with the Venom symbiote. And then he joins the Guardians of the Galaxy. No, really.
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How do you know he's going to be a generic psycho bully? If anything, the MCU is the perfect place to give Flash a larger role than usual. It'd be a good way to crossover Spider-Man and Got G if they go the Agent Venom route.
(Also, he was NOT a generic bully in Spectacular. The show was obviously setting up a larger character arc for him. It's just that, y'know, it got canceled before they could follow through on it.)
edited 23rd Jul '15 8:19:44 PM by spashthebandragon
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.@Guy01
Agent Venom is very good. Shame ASM already did Jerk with a Heart of Gold Flash first.
edited 23rd Jul '15 8:20:54 PM by AlleyOop
Well, in Spectacular, Peter did kick Flash under the table a whole bunch that one time, so there's that...
Anyways, I don't think it's fair to fault Spectacular for an issue obviously caused by the show being Cut Short. I'm sure if it'd continued, Flash would've kept getting character development and become a better person.
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.How do you know he's going to be a generic psycho bully? If anything, the MCU is the perfect place to give Flash a larger role than usual. It'd be a good way to crossover Spider-Man and Got G if they go the Agent Venom route.
It is taking place during Peter's Highschool Years, and that's who Flash was back then. You do make a good point though on him possibly growing later and maybe joining the Guardians if the MCU continues that far.
Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?Heck, even the Amazing Spider-Man movie manages to give Flash more depth than just "generic psycho bully," and he was barely in a handful of scenes there.
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.i want an agent venom movie so badly. i honestly feel that flash venom is one of the best ideas marvel has had in the last few years. my only fear is they wouldn't have enough time to properly convey all the things he struggles with and give them proper due, between his shaky relationship with his father because of his parental abuse, becoming a bully in order to pass off his helplessness and anger to other people, becoming a soldier, living as a man without legs, struggling with his alcoholism and how it makes him like his father, struggling with maintaining control of the symbiote, how his relationship with his girlfriend is going to shit because of his double life as agent venom...etc.
they could truncate some of those of course and probably would, but it's the fact that he has so many things going on that gives him depth.
edited 23rd Jul '15 8:32:40 PM by wehrmacht
I don't think Spider-Man's villains always need added depth. Spider-Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 2 were really overstuffed because they tried to make Sandman and Electro more sympathetic. But the Ultimate Spider-Man comics just had Electro show up as a generic supervillain with no backstory or clear motives, and that was fine.
Especially with the movie being in the MCU, I think we can just accept at this point that superhumans exist, and some of them decide to rob banks and stuff, and that's all the explanation a lot of Spider-Man's rogues gallery really needs.
edited 23rd Jul '15 9:10:29 PM by spashthebandragon
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.Spider-Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 2 were really overstuffed because they tried to make Sandman and Electro more sympathetic.
There were many things wrong with Spider-Man 3, but I don't think the Sandman was one of them. He was one of the few good things. Bad things include: Topher Grace, Venom, Topher Grace as Venom, Peter Parker dancing, dancing Peter Parker, that old elderly butler who suddenly knew that Norman Osborn was the Green Goblin, but declined to tell anybody including Osborn's own son, Peter Parker dancing, and, of course, Topher Grace.
In the chance that they do adapt Agent Venom, I kinda hope they cast an actual amputee for the role. It's an unrealistic hope, and probably impractical too, since it's probably easier for an able-bodied actor to sit in a wheelchair and have his legs edited out than it is for someone who's missing his legs to perform action scenes when the symbiote is active.
But the opportunity is there if Marvel wants to show their commitment to diverse casting, and they can probably pull it off by using the same special effects technology that gave us skinny Steve or suited Iron Man. I'm not an expert on movie budgets but depending on how much it costs to merge or construct the CGI versus stunt training it may even be more efficient.
edited 23rd Jul '15 9:54:06 PM by AlleyOop
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No, Sandman pretty much sucked. I think the How It Should've Ended Video summed him up best: "My daughter is sick. That makes it okay to steal!"
Plus the double retcon of who was involved in Ben's death.
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.I really liked how they handled Flash in The Amazing Spider-man. The scene in which he comforts Peter is one of the best of the movie. And I really wouldn't mind if they go a similar route this time around. Plus, if they really want to do a Hughes-like movie, they need a bunch of high-school characters. Meaning, I fully expect to see Flash, Liz Allen and perhaps Sally Avril (Honestly, this could be a little bit complicated with the right, because I am pretty sure that some of the students which attended Midtown High with Peter became later heroes which are owned by Marvel, not Sony). Perhaps they also throw Harry into the mix, even though Peter meet him at college, not High School.
I also have the feeling that they won't focus on the villain that much this time around. They did that the last five movies. This time, I guess, they will focus on what it means to be a teenage superhero. Which is one of the reasons why I don't want one of the "big villains" yet. It would be such a waste.
edited 24th Jul '15 12:11:42 AM by Swanpride

I thought Spectacular was the one nobody liked.