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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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Yeah.
Though I get what he's getting at there.
Well, Vision KINDA parallels Ultron? He is a Vibranium-based machine, he just isn't chrome.
Anyway, I asked this a couple of pages ago but didn't get an answer; at the start of Ant-Man's final battle on the toyset, the ants that rushed into battle alongside him were the bullet ants, yes? They didn't look like red, crazy, or carpenter ants leaving only those by process of elimination, but I don't know if the movie featured ants outside of those four.
edited 23rd Jul '15 3:43:35 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Well, most villains in the MCU are the negative version of someone (Loki is the big exception, because he wasn't created to be the negative version of Thor, but to be the opposite of him), but it's not always necessarily the hero. Alexander Pierce it the counterpart to Fury, not Cap, and Ultron is the counterpart to Vision, not any of the original Avengers.
Cap got the Winter Soldier, though, and you could argue that Ultron is meant to be an Evil Counterpart of Iron Man, again.
I agree that the MCU's got a problem with overreliance on Shadow Archetypes. I'd say even with the firepowers that Killian's background makes him still guilty in the same way that Venom is to Spidey despite their differences.
Civil War seems like it will probably buck the trend though as Steve and Tony have very little in common (and that probably contributes to their animosity), and assuming they stick somewhat reasonably to the source material it's unlikely Zemo will be a retread of any of the heroes.
I think one of the reasons we seem to be getting so many Shadow Archetypes is that, with each character only getting a few movies or so, there's not a lot of room to really flesh out their Rogues Gallery. Both Tony and Cap have plenty of enemies in the comics that aren't Shadow Archetypes, for example, but because each character only gets so many movies, the writers and producers feel like they need to add in the most essential villains first and foremost, and that includes Shadow Archetypes. Whereas in a TV show ala, say, Spectacular Spiderman, you've got a lot more time and space to really add more villains into the mix, which means a lot less time spent fighting Shadow Archetypes. But the movies just don't have that luxury.
edited 23rd Jul '15 4:17:32 PM by kkhohoho
Variety is one of the main reasons I wanted to see someone like The Living Laser appear in the Iron Man film series - even if just as a minion or The Dragon. Not only are the Laser's powers different from Tony's, but they're out there and not at all conventional, making for a very interesting fight.
Or why I wish Hulk was getting more movies, because he has a lot of enemies with strange powers.
Anyway, we might not have that problem in sequels to Ant-Man ( unless Hank really does go bad). Yellowjacket is the only shrinking villain either Ant-Man has, even taking into account that the version we see in the movie is a Composite Character with someone completely unrelated.
edited 23rd Jul '15 4:42:37 PM by KnownUnknown
Considering the heroes have already been solidly established by the time of sequel films, you'd think that would've freed up room to flesh out their villains, Shadow Archetype or not. And indeed apparently they did, except it all went into the cutting floor for whatever reason (paranoia that Viewers Are Morons and can't comprehend non-Black-and-White Morality? I don't know).
The Dark World is especially bad in this because with all the scenes for the Dark Elves cut out for Loki, Thor probably gets the most screentime, and he's still dull as a doorknob. I seriously can't remember any new characterization being added to him. All the memorable moments of that film both good and bad went to the other characters.
edited 23rd Jul '15 4:53:44 PM by AlleyOop
Too easy to cause the bad kind of Narm due to Special Effects Failure.
Personally I can see why having the villains have the same power the first time: as explained by the guys who worked on Antman, this allows for a less complicated story to have both the hero and villain get their powers from the same source. However, that only works for the first movie; past that, they have no excuse to give us some variant.
No.
Scorpion's origin ties into Spidey.
He was created to be a better Spidey....and failed badly. I mean, he's supposed to be stronger, faster, etc, but he's not too good at that part. And he was created by JJJ. Wouldn't be right for him to be anything else to be honest.
One Strip! One Strip!Spectacular Spider-Man! Just make the movie exactly like the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon! It's not that hard, Disney! *sulks off, muttering under breath about the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon*
edited 23rd Jul '15 7:42:32 PM by spashthebandragon
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.

Whiplash also fought differently from Iron Man, even if he did get a suit at the end.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!