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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It's the same issue with Khan in the new Star Trek movie. Yeah Cumberbatch did a great job as him but at the end of the day he still isn't Indian.
I shouldn't have to explain this but changing a white person to a minority is a lot less problematic than the reverse. We have tons of white people. Why take away what few minority roles Marvel does have?
edited 15th Jul '15 4:16:46 PM by Kostya
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The difference is that with those characters, they were changing them to become minorities, thus increasing diversity. Here, they are changing an already minority character into a white character, thus decreasing diversity.
Honestly, if they turned the Ancient One into a white male, I would be mad, but since it's Tilda Swinton, I can't really become that mad, because she's an awesome actress and will probably kick ass in the role.
edited 15th Jul '15 4:17:21 PM by alliterator
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Because there are plenty of white folks running around. The audience won't miss a few.
Not so for Asian characters.
edited 15th Jul '15 4:17:41 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Asian characters in MCU films:
- Hogun from Thor and Thor: The Dark World (well, technically he's from Vanaheim, but the actor is Asian)
- Jim Morita from Captain America: The First Avenger
- Helen Cho from Avengers: Age of Ultron
You know, I actually think Age of Ultron did the best in terms of diversity - Helen Cho has a large impact on the plot and even survives to the end of the film. Hogun has little to no impact and Morita has a couple of really cool scenes and then fades into the background.
I'm guessing you are a troll, because the point of having more diversity is having more diversity. So the movies aren't stuffed with white men named Chris; so different people can see people who look like them in the movies. Diversity is good.
edited 15th Jul '15 4:30:13 PM by alliterator
Race does matter. If every single hero is a white person it sends the message that minorities can't be heroes. Why is it so hard to just cast minorities?
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I forgot about Hogun. He and Morita aren't major characters though. I'd still argue that Helen Cho is the first Asian character with a major role in a movie.
edited 15th Jul '15 4:31:00 PM by Kostya
x4 Read this.
edited 15th Jul '15 4:30:27 PM by Mukora
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."Something that the first episode of Agents of SHIELD touched on a bit
Shame that it didn't really follow up
Forever liveblogging the Avengersit goes beyond just representation too because sometimes a person's race is an important part of their history and how they relate to other characters.
i.e batman being the son of an old family of rich white people has been a defining trait of his character for pretty much the entirety of his existence. it wouldn't necessarily be BAD if he were portrayed by an asian or african actor but it does make a pretty big change in terms of how he fits into a larger sociocultural context because logically speaking it'd probably mean his family's wealth isn't as old. it means that he basically isn't an aristocrat anymore.
edited 15th Jul '15 4:35:29 PM by wehrmacht
http://screencrush.com/exclusive-djimon-hounsou-guardians-of-the-galaxy/
Djimon Hounsou: I just thought about that story when I was there. I mean, obviously it's been disturbing me for some time that my son said that. So I've been on a journey to try to show him other superheroes that are of our color, that are diverse, and I find it difficult to find something online. The only thing I found was my own voiceover of Black Panther that I did for an animation for BET some time ago. But it was interesting to be there for that and remembering that my son once said that. That was the first thing that shocked me and realized that we as a minority don't have heroes. Yeah, that shocked me.
Someone find that one Anthony Mackie interview where he says something similar.
edited 15th Jul '15 4:39:02 PM by AlleyOop
There was subtext with Mike Peterson and how his son idolized all the white superheroes: Cap, Thor, Iron Man
It figures into his decision to volunteer for the dangerous Centipede experiment thing.
edited 15th Jul '15 4:42:11 PM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
x6 I've heard those points before, and I acknowledge their validity.
That being said, Marvel is out to make superhero movies and diversity is kinda incidental to that. If the movie's diverse, great; if it's not, oh well. As long as they keep entertaining me, I don't really care what the demography of the cast is.
Make mine Marvel.

I mean, people didn't dislike "Batfleck" for the same reasons people dislike Tilda Swinton here, or for the same reason I think Benedict Cumberbatch is bad.
Also I never like Heath Ledger's Joker.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."