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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#37726: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:13:06 AM

  • Thor: "Actually, you're just there so I can have an excuse to flaunt my abs by being shirtless and wet."

That Came Out Wrong.

edited 14th Jul '15 8:13:36 AM by ultimatepheer

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#37727: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:19:49 AM

"You will later take to the twitters and inform people of my physique"

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#37728: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:26:59 AM

-#Thorhasniceabs

edited 14th Jul '15 8:27:12 AM by edvedd

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#37729: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:29:13 AM

#GonnaWorkOutMyAbsSoHardImGonnaBeThor

#IsThisHowHashtagsWorkIDontKnow

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37730: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:30:19 AM

@Ant-Man stingers: Looks like that answers my question of "How are they going to get Hope a suit to be Wasp in the next one if there are only 2 suits on the hero side?". They already had one hidden away. Guessing she won't be in CW(because she hasn't been seen at the locations)and IW seems like not the right place for a new hero so she will probably disappear for a while like Pepper/Jane and only show up for a scene or two until after IW. The second stinger is just more buildup to CW.

All in all the movie doesn't sound amazing but it doesn't seem to fall in the same holes as Thor 2 and Ao U.

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#37731: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:31:32 AM

#YouHaven'tBeenNearHisArms

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#37732: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:34:55 AM

-#ImStraightButImGayForThorsArms

I'm seeing Ant Man this Friday.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#37733: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:48:32 AM

[up][up][up]I don't think so either but it's always possible she has some small part and they're just keeping it under wraps. We didn't get official confirmation of Anthony Mackie and Idris Elba in AOU until very late in the game.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37734: Jul 14th 2015 at 8:56:22 AM

[up]Even so they had maybe 3 minutes of screentime combined. If Hope is in CW she probably won't be there as Wasp, the hero, but as Hope, friend of Ant-Man. They're going to save her putting on the suit for either a major scene in a Avengers movie(which would mean she would be in the cast with a "From Ant-Man") or in Ant-Man 2.

Would you want Zeta-Jones as Wasp in a prequel?

Edit: Tatum is the kindest actor.

edited 14th Jul '15 9:09:58 AM by LordofLore

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#37735: Jul 14th 2015 at 9:33:49 AM

I'm thinking given Falcon's appearance in Ant-Man, and Widow's well-received Deuteragonist role in The Winter Soldier, that even if Hope Wasp doesn't have a solo movie of her own (even though she should) she might show up in others' films as a major character nonetheless.

edited 14th Jul '15 9:34:10 AM by AlleyOop

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#37736: Jul 14th 2015 at 9:42:02 AM

I... don't know what adventures The Wasp could have that make her deserve a film, other than established, female representation at last.

Like seriously, out of everyone, The Wasp. The woman with the ability to grow smaller and shoot annoying darts at people? Ant Man is a heist film (so I've heard), I'll give them that one. I used to hate Ant Man (wasn't bothered they gave Stark into his role either), but I like the idea.

How about Storm, or Elektra, or Maria Hill, or... or somebody else. Jane Foster. Jane Foster deserves her own film. Or She-Hulk.

I join you...if not for the stupid romance, I would have given it place four of my favourite Marvel movies, ahead of The Avengers

I'm not generally a fan of romance. That said, I didn't expect for Natasha and Bruce to have any, and it once again confirmed that Bruce Banner is not Stark's bro, Bruce Banner does not control the Hulk, and Bruce Banner is a very tragic hero.

So I liked it.

I'd like it more if Black Widow actually had a way to pressure point the Hulk instead of just calming him down. That's what it looked like the first time she did the lullaby. was my kneejerk reaction because of how long they dwelt on it, and the way she had to gently rest her hand on his arm. Some kind of superhuman, comic booky pressure point.

edited 14th Jul '15 9:50:48 AM by Soble

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#37737: Jul 14th 2015 at 9:44:11 AM

[up]Storm is out because of Fox and Elektra is probably being avoided because of the awful movie. Maria Hill could work I guess but at that point you should just make a Black Widow movie.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#37738: Jul 14th 2015 at 9:45:26 AM

Rogue, Jean, and Sue are out too.

I don't know that many female Marvel heroes that aren't mutants come to think of it. Ms Marvel?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#37739: Jul 14th 2015 at 9:46:18 AM

[up][up] Elektra has been confirmed for Daredevil Season 2.

You know who should get a movie? Misty Knight.

edited 14th Jul '15 9:46:41 AM by alliterator

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#37740: Jul 14th 2015 at 9:48:29 AM

[up][up][up][up] The Wasp is actually one of the founders of the Avengers in the comics and was a leader of the Avengers for many years, so she definitely deserves a solo movie.

edited 14th Jul '15 9:49:21 AM by higherbrainpattern

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#37741: Jul 14th 2015 at 9:48:36 AM

[up][up] Maybe team her up with Colleen Wing. Do a "Daughters of the Dragon" movie.

edited 14th Jul '15 9:48:56 AM by DrFurball

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#37742: Jul 14th 2015 at 9:48:48 AM

Jane Foster. Jane Foster deserves her own film.

Well, she IS Thor after all.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#37743: Jul 14th 2015 at 10:09:22 AM

The Wasp actually deserves a movie over Scott Lang because she's one of the people who actually founded the Avengers alongside Hank Pym. That alone means she deserves priority in making a solo film, or at least a duo with Hank if not for Wright, and she tends to be more liked than her husband anyway.

As for her lack of a rogues' gallery, all they need is one person who went against Hank to be enough. Hell they could make up 75% of it. It's not like the Iron Man films and even Scott Ant-Man didn't already play fast and loose with adapting comic villains.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#37744: Jul 14th 2015 at 10:11:06 AM

[up] The issue isn't that she isn't an important character in the comics - she is - it's that she never really had her own solo title. She's never really been a "solo" hero - she's either been Ant-Man's partner or a member of the Avengers.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#37745: Jul 14th 2015 at 10:15:47 AM

I don't think it really matters. None of the movies faithfully adapt comic book stories.

Or hell, give her She-Hulk as a co-star

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37746: Jul 14th 2015 at 10:27:58 AM

I just remembered someone in this thread wanted to be updated once more than just 1 of the main Marvel Avengers/team books were announced(All-New All-Different Avengers is the one from before)so that they could see what characters Marvel are focusing on in the future. Here are 5 of the main Avengers books:

edited 14th Jul '15 10:32:47 AM by LordofLore

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#37747: Jul 14th 2015 at 10:30:06 AM

...that's what Marvel hasn't done yet.

A "buddy cop" superhero film. Two superhero origins for the price of one. Luke Cage and Karate kid maybe.

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#37748: Jul 14th 2015 at 10:30:38 AM

They're getting Netflix serieses already.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37749: Jul 14th 2015 at 10:31:45 AM

[up][up]We call him Iron Fist and they're getting series.

Edit:[nja]

edited 14th Jul '15 10:32:00 AM by LordofLore

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#37750: Jul 14th 2015 at 10:45:00 AM

Hopefully Luke and Danny will have some crossover in their respective series.

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