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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#37626: Jul 11th 2015 at 4:18:31 PM

[up][up]Then why do it? They knew Amazing 3 was coming after. They must have had some plan for that before they actually made the movie.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#37627: Jul 11th 2015 at 4:35:28 PM

"Because it happened in the comics!" I imagine.

It probably seemed like a good idea at the time and then only later they realized how stupid it was.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#37628: Jul 11th 2015 at 4:37:13 PM

I understand that but there's a big gap between when they decide the plotline of a movie and when they actually make it. During that time they'd probably start thinking about potential sequels and they'd realize they might want to keep Gwen around. It's not like keeping her alive would require too many alterations to the script. Goblin killing her was pretty tacked on.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#37630: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:02:05 PM

Is it just me or Miss America is really light skinned in this game?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#37631: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:04:09 PM

When hasn't she been light skinned?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#37632: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:10:17 PM

She's usually much darker but that may just be the lightning in the game.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#37633: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:11:58 PM

Yeah, America Chavez is latina, and lately she's at least lightly tanned so it's weird how white she looks here.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#37634: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:52:33 PM

Stanbuster

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#37635: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:10:24 PM

I like the idea of Gwen Carnage, in part because I like Anti-Villains and/or Driven to Villainy characters who used to be legitimate friends of the hero(es) (Two-Face ftw), and also because I'm not a huge fan of Cletus Cassidy. I think it would've been a neat way for Spectacular to do a "something bad happens to Gwen" arc without actually killing her, for instance - mostly because Greg Weisman is one of the few people I would trust with an arc like that.

But I wouldn't trust the Amazing series with it. Especially if the plot would "Peter does some mad-science to bring is dead loved ones back to life, and accidentally turns his girlfriend into the next Big Bad! Drama!"

Which of course, it (probably) wasn't anyway. I wouldn't want someone coming into the thread just now and assuming the information we got had anything to do with Carnage.

edited 11th Jul '15 7:11:20 PM by KnownUnknown

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#37636: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:35:30 PM

She's usually much darker but that may just be the lightning in the game.

Might be. It is just it took a momment for me to recognize her. The combination of light skin with uncharacteristic facial expressionnote  threw me off.

About Gwen Carnage. In the comics that whole thing was basically an Author's Saving Throw to have Gwen back as her death was pointless and stupid. I am against this kind of thing on principle, as those stories often cause more harm than good in comics, but that time it went relatively well. That plot point in specific was not good, but it wasn't terrible either and it didn't actually cause needless confusion. That said, if the movie went with the same mindset (i.e. unmake a previous stupid decision) I doubt it would have gone as seamless as this would likely have to be a major focus in the story.

edited 11th Jul '15 7:40:35 PM by Heatth

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#37637: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:49:28 PM

LEGO figures don't really do much when it comes to skin shading. Just beige, brown, and classic yellow.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#37638: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:03:47 PM

I posted something yesterday that seemed to get lost amongst all the Quesada-bashing, so here it is again.

I recently read the Kree-Skrull War and Avengers Forever, and I was thinking about how to introduce Rick Jones into the MCU. What if he shows up in the Captain Marvel movie and the explosion he gets saved from is actually the same one that gives Carol Danvers her powers?

edited 11th Jul '15 8:04:16 PM by FoxBoxKid

Make mine Marvel.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#37639: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:05:05 PM

Making him sidekick to a Captain Marvel would sure be a continuity nod

I'm not sure why they'd bother to adapt Rick Jones though

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Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#37640: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:13:27 PM

[up][up][up]That is not true. Even if these are the only "standard" skin colors, they still make custom ones for specific characters. That is how we get all these multicolored characters from Marvel. And it is not just for unnatural skin colors. Take a look in the Jurassic World set. I counted at last 4 different realistic skin tones.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#37641: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:14:26 PM

Oh, huh.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#37642: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:23:09 PM

[up][up][up] Well, she needs a supporting cast, doesn't she?

Make mine Marvel.
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#37643: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:27:10 PM

I kinda pity Rick Jones. He was everybody's sidekick in the early Marvel days and was a major part of Hulk's origins. Now he is all but forgotten. I wouldn't mind he making at last a cameo in one movie. Having him in Captain's Marvel supporting cast would be fitting.

edited 11th Jul '15 8:27:32 PM by Heatth

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#37644: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:28:56 PM

Yeah, Rick was a fairly important character back in the day, and aside from "Agents of SMASH", he's really been shafted out of adaptations the last, uh, twenty years or so.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#37645: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:33:10 PM

He was in the Hulk cart-....holy shit that was twenty years ago.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#37646: Jul 12th 2015 at 1:25:48 AM

I'll never forgive Rick Jones for the Teen Brigade

Not even inexplicably giving them guns and making them anarchists in the Avengers year one-esque miniseries can make them less of a hilariously stupid concept.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37647: Jul 12th 2015 at 1:32:31 AM

They should try to have him in Captain Marvel. He has history with the book and not having him in it in any way would be sort of sad. Even doing a Dr. Blake joke like Thor did would be fine.

edited 12th Jul '15 1:35:25 AM by LordofLore

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#37649: Jul 12th 2015 at 1:37:45 AM

Aw.

And, ooh! Carol can date Phyla-Vell, and then they can go on double dates.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37650: Jul 12th 2015 at 2:20:44 AM

Something that's going to be an interesting watch for comicbook readers is if they adapt Mar-Vell dying(if he's in the movie(which he kind of has to unless Carol's powers, costume(which is a big homage to her old friend both in the symbol and the colors) and very origin is completely different)he probably will)because in the comics Carol didn't know Mar-Vell died until months later(pretty much everyone else was there).

edited 12th Jul '15 2:21:29 AM by LordofLore


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