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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#37401: Jul 7th 2015 at 6:35:24 PM

I am not sure why dropping the romance with Claire would be a bad thing. She and Matt had zero chemistry. Probably because they barely spent any time together but, still, the implication of a romance in the last episode felt awkward because of it.

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#37402: Jul 7th 2015 at 6:38:30 PM

I thought Claire had way more chemistry with Foggy, and was mad that he randomly hooked back up with Marci.

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#37403: Jul 7th 2015 at 6:42:51 PM

Man, I love the comments section on these Everhart videos. It's always fun when people go along with the gag.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#37404: Jul 7th 2015 at 6:49:29 PM

She and Matt had zero chemistry.

They had plenty of chemistry, what are you talking about?

I thought Claire had way more chemistry with Foggy, and was mad that he randomly hooked back up with Marci.

What. Do you mean Karen? 'Cause Claire's played by Rosario Dawson.

edited 7th Jul '15 6:50:40 PM by higherbrainpattern

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#37405: Jul 7th 2015 at 6:54:14 PM

Oh. Karen. I am so dumb. I just got done watching the first season a couple weeks ago!

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#37407: Jul 7th 2015 at 7:09:37 PM

Eh, Claire pretty much broke up with him (if they were ever together) - she didn't think she would be able to deal with the whole vigilante thing.

Hey, at least they didn't kill her off. And isn't she supposed to show up in other shows?

edited 7th Jul '15 7:10:13 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#37408: Jul 7th 2015 at 7:28:45 PM

Yeah, I'm not sure where you got the "they are dropping Claire's storyline" from. They already pretty much dropped her storyline when she left the season — but they confirmed that the actress/character will show up in other shows (probably Luke Cage's since Claire Temple is his ex-girlfriend).

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#37409: Jul 7th 2015 at 7:51:30 PM

They had plenty of chemistry, what are you talking about?

About Karen, clearly. tongue My bad.

Yeah, Claire. She is cool. They are not really "dropping" the thread for season two, though. They already did it in season one already, which kinda sucks. Instead they implied a romance with Karen out of nowhere in the last episode.

Oh. Karen. I am so dumb. I just got done watching the first season a couple weeks ago!

My fault, I induced you to error.

edited 7th Jul '15 7:52:23 PM by Heatth

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#37410: Jul 7th 2015 at 8:03:55 PM

Well, Rosario Dawson is returning for Season 2 of Daredevil, so that's good.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#37411: Jul 7th 2015 at 8:09:37 PM

[up]They also said they want her to appear in the other shows.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#37412: Jul 7th 2015 at 8:15:47 PM

[up]She is clearly the Night Nurse, so it makes sense. Might be why they decided to have her break with Matt so quickly. To not "tie" her to him too much and allow her to be more flexible for the other shows.

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#37414: Jul 7th 2015 at 10:30:58 PM

The official Daredevil tv show twitter account calls Elektra an old friend. Meaning that she is the girl that Matt dated while he was in college, most likely. So I'm totally expecting college flashbacks for Matt, Foggy and Elektra in Season 2.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#37415: Jul 8th 2015 at 1:39:35 AM

Honestly, everything is better than the Matt/Karen relationship they teased in the last episode. Those two characters have zero chemistry, I barely buy them as friends. It is too bad that Matt/Claire is apparently in the past, because they clicked very will with each other, but I am open for something new, too. As long as it isn't Matt/Karen. Did I mention that I really hate the notion of Matt/Karen? Don't do it writers. Just don't do it. I don't care what happens in the comics.

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#37416: Jul 8th 2015 at 4:46:41 AM

[up]My thoughts too. The fact they implied a romance in the last minute was just plain confusing to me. I guess my opinion could change if the two actually interact more as friends in the next season. But as things are now, they are indeed a terrible pairing.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#37418: Jul 8th 2015 at 7:10:05 AM

Honestly, I don't see where you guys are coming from — because I don't think they did imply any romance. Matt asked her a question because he noticed something off with her and she lied to him. There was no romance there.

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#37419: Jul 8th 2015 at 7:12:40 AM

[up]I honestly don't remember the details. What I remember is that I felt the show wanted to make clear these two could become a couple next season. Not "implied romance" in the sense of implying the romance is already happening. But in the sense that the show is going to that direction next time.

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#37420: Jul 8th 2015 at 7:51:47 AM

I feel like the MCU films do a good job with this, as while mind control was involved both times, they've showcased the Hulk being destructive and indiscriminately violent. While they do of course have the requisite "cool Hulk scenes", the destructive moments are a good way of making it so the audience doesn't want the Hulk to appear. Also helps that Mark Ruffalo is an engaging screen presence.

I agree and will add that it's not mind control so much as mind influence, which makes it better. In both cases, he's under the influence of mind-altering effects but isn't being overtly controlled, and that creates the impression that the destructive rampaging hellbeast is something the Hulk always has in him, just something he tries to reign in.

Regarding Avengers Assemble Hulk

I've avoided AA like the plague, but I should note that EMH Hulk was walking around doing casual things too. What I liked was that he was always an asshole about it. He was rude, grumpy, and prone to bullying others out of his way. Even in casual conversation, you could still tell that he was a Rage Monster.

So they're completely dropping the Matt/Claire thread in Daredevil season 2.

Wonderful.

It could just be a Love Triangle.

It already is, and the weakest link in the triangle is Matt/

Oh, CLAIRE. I was about to write this whole thing about how Karen's feelings for Matt are Hero Worship infatuation after he rescued her from prison, and she barely even knows who he is.

Claire's going to be the connecting link between shows. I don't think anybody gets dibs on her. At least, not until she's done a round on each show.

edited 8th Jul '15 7:52:38 AM by TobiasDrake

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#37421: Jul 8th 2015 at 7:56:57 AM

[up]Yes, more people making this embarrassing mistake.tongue I feel less bad now.

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#37422: Jul 8th 2015 at 8:15:21 AM

Hey, it could be worse. Someone over on io9 is saying that Foggy is the worst part about the show. Yes, Senor Foggy.

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#37423: Jul 8th 2015 at 8:20:57 AM

Given that she was in, like, three episodes, I think a lot of us forgot who Claire even is at first. She wasn't exactly a critical part of the show.

edited 8th Jul '15 8:21:12 AM by TobiasDrake

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#37424: Jul 8th 2015 at 8:30:22 AM

But I did know full well who she was and I actually really like her character. But, yeah, I guess I was just confused about someone treating her as if she was relevant.

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#37425: Jul 8th 2015 at 10:20:57 AM

[up][up][up]Aww. I like Señor Foggy.

I also liked Mrs. Carnitas. Kinda sad she's gone.

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