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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#37001: Jun 27th 2015 at 7:39:44 AM

OK, staying off Tumblr.

Damn it people, why you gotta spoil one Ant Man end credit scene for me.

edited 27th Jun '15 7:39:54 AM by edvedd

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#37003: Jun 27th 2015 at 10:23:00 AM

Now what can we do get some of them into the MCU, aside from Hand, or buying the X-Men back?

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37004: Jun 27th 2015 at 10:56:28 AM

Introduce Phyla in Gotg2 so the group has a good Kree on the team with Moondragon joining later after the team maybe goes to Titan, adapt Jessica Drew as an adult but gay(maybe in the Captain Marvel movie as a agent like Coulson was to Tony?)and do a Young Avengers movie.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#37005: Jun 27th 2015 at 1:14:20 PM

It's weird to think of many of Batman's female supporting cast is queer in one way or another. Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, all three Catwomens, Batwoman, Renee Montoya. Batgirl, Talia Al Guhl and Spoiler are the only prominent strait female characters I can think of. And weirdly, I'm not sure I can name any queer male Batman supporting cast.

I'm glad Ant Man reviews are positive, I'll put aside some time to be grumpy about it not being a Wasp film, but I really want to enjoy this film.

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#37006: Jun 27th 2015 at 1:15:18 PM

I still really want cinematic Young Avengers but they'd be difficult to do as their entire thing is legacy. It could be done but changes would have to be made on a fairly large scale. Hulking and Noh-Varr could just be explained as space stuff, America just another superhuman (although her backstory would probably need the fairly big change of removing the alt universe stuff, Stature and Patriot could be roughly the same (judging by what we know of Ant-Man Cassie would need to grow up a bit and get a suit but that could happen) and Kate!Hawkeye would need almost no changes. Prodigy might be a problem as he's a mutant but he's not been in much anyway and Loki would need to go through some form of his rebirth plotline which might not be wanted given Hiddleston's popularity (or on the other hand, the fact that Loki's got a lot of attention already). Iron Lad might not be possible as I don't know who has Kang. The biggest problem is Wiccan and Speed; although they could do the Wanda/Vision romance her powers no longer can be stretched to whatever it was that actually happened there and it requires a lot of focus. It could possibly be done as them just being regular twins and getting the same powers as the Maximoffs by infinity gem antics.

Phyla-Vell and Moondragon could easily be introduced though.

edited 27th Jun '15 1:16:52 PM by TenebrousGaze

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37007: Jun 27th 2015 at 1:17:46 PM

Gunn says Fox has Kang IIRC.

Edit: For a YA movie I'd place it sometime in Phase 4/5(honestly I would actually like a timeskip of 3-5 years in the MCU once, maybe after IW?). Cast should probably be something like America, Kate, Wiccan, Hulkling(the Mar-Vell part of his backstory could probably be dropped), Noh-Varr(hopefully introduced in a Gotg or Captain Marvel movie before as a young but alright Kree), Teen(but really copy)!Loki(Hiddleston can't play him forever(and he's probably going to be killed in IW)and he likes the story so I could see him in a JIM movie as Old!Loki before this one)and Speed. I would honestly save Stature and Patriot for movie 2 or replace Speed with Patriot in the first one. Noh-Varr I could also drop without any fuss.

Loki for Man Behind the Man who's using the team to complete his goal but ends up liking being a hero a bit.

edited 27th Jun '15 1:50:18 PM by LordofLore

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#37008: Jun 27th 2015 at 2:25:10 PM

Considering phases are three years long more or less, Cassie should be able to age naturally into being an appropriate age for Stature, if the MCU lasts that long.

I am rather fond of Stature though.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#37010: Jun 27th 2015 at 4:08:47 PM

Flag-Snatcher?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#37011: Jun 27th 2015 at 4:25:45 PM

Introduce Phyla in Gotg2 so the group has a good Kree on the team with Moondragon joining later after the team maybe goes to Titan, adapt Jessica Drew as an adult but gay(maybe in the Captain Marvel movie as a agent like Coulson was to Tony?)and do a Young Avengers movie.

I think that Moondragon is pretty much a shoe-in at this point but it'd be nice if both she AND Phyla were in GOTG 2. But Feige just recently said something about Phase 3 ramping up Marvel's commitment to diversity so I'm hoping they don't drop the ball on that front.

Unfortunately, I think the fact that Marvel relies so heavily on foreign markets might be part of the problem.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#37012: Jun 27th 2015 at 4:29:47 PM

They recut their films for China all the goddamn time regardless so I really don't see why putting in same-sex couples should be an issue.

edited 27th Jun '15 4:29:57 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#37013: Jun 27th 2015 at 4:34:07 PM

Because it's kind of hard to show a movie that used to be 2 h 30 min in Europe but now is 1 h 37 min in China/parts of Africa/probably Russia/probably other parts of Asia. Making Phyla and Moondragon part of the main team would mean their bond would be front and center and not stuff like 2 male extras kissing during a party for 1 min which can be cut out without most noticing.

edited 27th Jun '15 4:37:26 PM by LordofLore

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#37014: Jun 27th 2015 at 4:36:21 PM

Have them have just a thirty minute make out scene. tongue

My various fanfics.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#37015: Jun 27th 2015 at 4:39:06 PM

Have them have a thirty minute makeout scene and a couple minutes into it the other characters get tired of waiting and just carry on while Phyla and Moondragon keep kissing in the background of every shot, somehow.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#37016: Jun 27th 2015 at 4:45:35 PM

I'm remembering that episode of Community where they mention an airplane-friendly cut of Pulp Fiction that's just thirty minutes of people eating cheeseburgers and drinking milkshakes.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#37017: Jun 27th 2015 at 5:07:03 PM

Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn

It's been confirmed that Poison Ivy and Harley have hooked up with each other.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#37018: Jun 27th 2015 at 5:49:32 PM

Isn't that what he said?

Though Ivy and Harley's relationship is... weird. Mostly because anything more than being the Odd Couple is largely implied, and when it is made blatant that they had a tryst its typically written from a Most Writers Are Male perspective.

edited 27th Jun '15 6:02:25 PM by KnownUnknown

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#37019: Jun 27th 2015 at 5:59:45 PM

Oh, oops. I misread

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#37020: Jun 27th 2015 at 6:27:37 PM

I'm pretty sure the New 52 Harley Quinn comic makes it explicitly clear that Harley and Ivy have hooked up in the past.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#37022: Jun 27th 2015 at 6:53:25 PM

I am mostly set on avoiding spoilers for the next weeks until I have seen Ant-man. I don't want to know what in the end credits scenes happens and what's so great about the finale.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#37023: Jun 27th 2015 at 7:38:51 PM

[up][up]Holy crap. [awesome]

I really wish more MCU movies ran with comic-book stuff for the credits sequences.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#37024: Jun 27th 2015 at 8:00:32 PM

[up][up][up] Cooool. [awesome]

edited 27th Jun '15 8:00:38 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Victin Since: Dec, 2011

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