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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Gamora was never set up as a mentor to Quill, though. I'm not sure "they just didn't use this trope at all" counts as an aversion.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.edited 24th Jun '15 8:47:27 PM by edvedd
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectHow's this:
"Well, he's not gonna be a wife beater because there ain't gonna be no wife to beat."
Zing!
But really, I'm sure they want to get past that.
edited 24th Jun '15 8:51:32 PM by edvedd
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectI'm slightly less peeved by the use of that trope in this context since while it generally annoys me, they have made it clear she will at least become a proper superhero in her own right in a later film.
I wish it were now in this film but I suppose it's better than simply playing the "The guy gets to be the hero while the girl complains about not being a hero" trope 100 percent straight.
edited 24th Jun '15 8:59:12 PM by comicwriter
I'm interested in one particular secret moment from these reports that's apparently pretty exciting for comic fans. I wonder.
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectShe's in the "show up" (IE humiliate) camp, not the "teach to be badass" camp.
Them encouraging each other to be better without it falling into that trope is arguably part of the aversion, though.
Captain America Iron Man Thor Hulk Hank Pym/Ant Man Wasp Hawkeye Black Widow Scarlet Witch Vision Quicksilver Captain Marvel (Carol) Black Panther
By my count, that'll just leave Hercules and Wonder Man
No She-Hulk, though... :( I can understand why they wouldn't want to introduce her, they probably feel spinoff heroes are too complicated for the movie audience, but She-Hulk's quite dinstinct from Hulk (she's boisterous and good-natured, and views the transformation to Hulk as a blessing and not a curse, being more comfortable in the green form than as a human), and she's pretty much my favourite Avenger.
I'd also count Beast among "classic" Avengers, especially if Wonder Man's counted too, because of their duo act. But obviously he can't be used in the MCU movies.
I remember that. Don't know why they'd give her that one to read.
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectDo we actually know what other actors and actresses have read comics for fun before or to prepare for the roles? I know Hiddleston really liked Journey Into Mystery and based part of his Loki on it(and he later sent in a letter for the final issue of the book where he praised it to the sky).
edited 25th Jun '15 1:04:06 AM by LordofLore
I imagine a lot of it is somewhat standard procedure. Bucky's actor cited the Brubaker run specifically, and said that after he read it he got the idea to improvise a little in TFA hoping it would work as foreshadowing in case they decided to adapt the Winter Soldier arc. The actors for the Maximoff twins also mentioned playing up the Incest Yay vibes because the Ultimates run made up at least part of their reading. And Falcon's seems like a comic buff in general, which is really cute. He was referencing some of the more recent comic developments in a Civil War interview a while back.
edited 25th Jun '15 1:00:53 AM by AlleyOop
Yeah, I imagine that Marvel has a greatest hits collection of comics for all their characters that best define who they are.
So they still shouldn't have given her Irredeemable Ant Man, then.
edited 25th Jun '15 1:11:55 AM by edvedd
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectMaybe they'll include this scene
◊ to the movie?
Maybe not.
I'm wagering not.
Could it be the Hawkeye arrow thing? I can't imagine it is, but what else would be really cool in this context that would also define Ant-Man's relationship with the greater Marvel universe, as the scene apparently does?
edited 25th Jun '15 1:29:53 AM by edvedd
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectThey're probably saving that for Civil War.
Anyway I notice that the "List of 29 facts about Ant-Man" includes mention of a fight in a briefcase, which is exactly what Joblo
reported on quite a while back. So I guess that's another credibility plus for them. Good because I'm liking most of what they have to say.
edited 25th Jun '15 1:30:37 AM by AlleyOop
I know, but I'm just trying to think of stuff.
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectI would like to say, "Marvel Studios, don't do that, you're better than that," but I just don't have that confidence anymore.
edited 25th Jun '15 7:03:17 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I thought they already made it perfectly clear why it's Scott wearing the suit and not Hope?
It's because yeah, Hope knows how to handle herself, and she could put on the suit and be a superhero easy. But they don't need a superhero, they need a thief. They need someone who already knows how to sneak into places and disable systems, who would be even better at it when you give him a suit that lets him shrink down.
It's pretty clear from what they've said that the major in-story reason is that Pym doesn't want her wearing the suit because he thinks it's too dangerous after what happened to her mother.
Which is probably why it was a particularly bad comic to give to an actress who frequently makes a point of talking about sexism in Hollywood.
Honestly, they should have just given her the original Silver Age comics, or at least Buisek's Avengers run. Because you'd think, for someone who's supposed to be playing, for all intents and the purposes, the Wasp, they'd give her something with the freaking Wasp.
edited 25th Jun '15 8:30:28 AM by kkhohoho

That happens a lot with action movies ("female character who is badass enough to teach and/or show up the protagonist in a scene or two, but not badass enough to accomplish anything" that is - essentially, the female badass who is there to be the object who helps the male character become badass), and the ubiquity is starting to get annoying - mostly because it's one of those things Hollywood just will not let go of, even though people are starting to mock it these days.
Marvel has averted it before with Guardians, though.
edited 24th Jun '15 8:22:53 PM by KnownUnknown