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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#36752: Jun 22nd 2015 at 1:14:32 PM

Very good choice if it's true. Hopefully another outlet can confirm the story.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#36753: Jun 22nd 2015 at 2:15:36 PM

I think they're the guys who stated Damien Poitier was playing one of Rumlow's men. They seem to be real fans and enthusiasts as opposed to just interested in getting the first suit so I'd like to believe they're sincere.

edited 22nd Jun '15 2:47:30 PM by AlleyOop

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#36754: Jun 22nd 2015 at 3:07:05 PM

Some more plot details as to how Ant-Man relates to the rest of the MCU:

  • The Ten Rings are one of the groups trying to buy Yellowjacket technology from Darren Cross.

  • Age of Ultron plays into why Hank Pym hates the Avengers, and there's apparently a surprise Avengers-related moment that is going to make the fans "freak out" when it happens.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36755: Jun 22nd 2015 at 3:25:40 PM

[up] Here's hoping that 'suprise Avengers-related moment' will be Hank Pym somehow having a hand in creating Ultron. Maybe he created the base for the AI system that Tony uses? It would certainly help explain why MCU!Hank hates the Avengers, for one thing.

edited 22nd Jun '15 3:26:33 PM by kkhohoho

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36756: Jun 22nd 2015 at 4:10:17 PM

I'm not surprised about the Janet info, but it does still make me smile to have confirmation.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#36757: Jun 22nd 2015 at 6:42:23 PM

Well, we were all at least partially expecting it, since we know there's a flashback of some sort where it would make sense.

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#36758: Jun 22nd 2015 at 7:54:28 PM

A description of the Ant-Man footage.

Sounds like the shrinking and action sequences are going to look awesome.

edited 22nd Jun '15 7:55:45 PM by edvedd

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#36759: Jun 22nd 2015 at 8:02:29 PM

The other thing they mentioned today is Jan isn't played by a known actress since apparently the suit covers everything and we only see her eyes.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#36760: Jun 22nd 2015 at 8:15:42 PM

Is it wrong that my one wish for an Ant-Man film (not looking likely in this one) is that there's a fight sequence inside a pinball machine?

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#36762: Jun 22nd 2015 at 9:59:22 PM

Cool descriptor.

Also answered one sort of "concern". When I saw the shower in the previews, I was wondering if they were going to do a version of Eric O'Grady's Peeping Tom antics.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#36763: Jun 22nd 2015 at 11:02:49 PM

I really hope the news about Ava Du Vernay directing Black Panther is true. She's done one fantastic movie, and my primary concern about this film was that it would deal with the title character and Wakanda in a clumsy or ham-handed manner. I'm far less worried about that with her in charge.

I don't know if she has any experience with action movies, but neither did the Russo brothers and they did a fantastic job, so that's not a prerequisite by any means.

edited 22nd Jun '15 11:03:29 PM by Galadriel

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#36764: Jun 22nd 2015 at 11:28:33 PM

That's why you get other people to help out with that part. It doesn't need to be a prerequisite.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#36765: Jun 22nd 2015 at 11:44:52 PM

Yeah the Russo brothers get a lot of credit, and rightly so, but it's also clear they had really great fight coordinators and stunt coordinators working with them.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#36766: Jun 23rd 2015 at 2:36:38 AM

@BP Director: Rumor was apparently debunked a few hours ago when it turned out all sites used the same source that refused to say anything on the subject. Everyone states it as fact when the source itself isn't saying anything and all the papers are using clickbaiting sites as "sources" on how confirmed it is.

@Ant-Man info: I'm guessing this means the other early rumors that had this info are true so there are going to be 3 major one on one fights, Hank will fight Scott at one point and Hank will meet someone from Tony's side of CW at the end and join their side.

Hopefully the Ten Rings will return in a movie other than a Iron Man movie because I'm honestly tired of him. Give us a Mandarin like the one in Fraction and Gillen's runs of the comic and I'll be happy.

edited 23rd Jun '15 11:30:31 AM by LordofLore

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#36767: Jun 23rd 2015 at 9:22:58 AM

[up] Where was it debunked?

Oh God! Natural light!
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36768: Jun 23rd 2015 at 9:31:22 AM

Here is the infant that will be playing Spider-Man

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#36769: Jun 23rd 2015 at 9:46:39 AM

That was a needlessly offensive way to describe a 19-year-old actor.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#36770: Jun 23rd 2015 at 9:52:19 AM

Eh, he looks young. Not much of an insult.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#36771: Jun 23rd 2015 at 9:58:35 AM

I blame too much dawsons casting. Either way any chance that the news is wrong? Was there an official announcement? This is the one actor which doesn't convince me especially since it seems to me that age was the deciding factor. I trust marvels ability to pick someone more

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#36772: Jun 23rd 2015 at 10:00:27 AM

I'm concerned only that he's British.

I really liked Andrew Garfield's accent in the Amazing films. He sounded much more like a New Yorker than the Default Hollywood Accent that Tobey Maguire used.

I hope Tom Holland can affect a believable New Yorker accent.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36773: Jun 23rd 2015 at 10:03:55 AM

Y'know what'd be awesome? Two stingers:

  • Stinger #1: Captain America and/or Iron Man, for some reason an wearing eyepatch, approaches Spider-Man to try and take him under their wing.
  • Stinger #2: Doctor Octopus approaches the villain in prison (or saves them from death, if the movie seemingly kills them off), inviting them to join the Sinister Six.

Sure, it's the same thing I've been hoping they would do with Zemo and the Masters of Evil, but it works just as well here.

edited 23rd Jun '15 10:05:08 AM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#36774: Jun 23rd 2015 at 10:13:11 AM

Zemo shows up to recruit Doctor Octopus and they then have an argument about how there's not enough room for two vengeance-based supervillain teams.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#36775: Jun 23rd 2015 at 10:22:44 AM

Or how about Spidey tries to "audition" for the Avengers by breaking into their headquarters, and fighting them...only to find out that they're not hiring and that he didn't earn their respect by going the route that he did.

Basically, the first half of Amazing Spider-Man #1, with the Avengers standing in for the FF.


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