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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36701: Jun 20th 2015 at 8:37:37 PM

Probably not in Coulson's case. Being calm, unfazed and vaguely friendly in the face of every situation was kind of his trademark even before Thor.

edited 20th Jun '15 8:49:40 PM by KnownUnknown

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#36702: Jun 20th 2015 at 8:38:38 PM

Or maybe it was simply retroactive foreshadowing. The writers looked back at what they did and decided to explain why it was like so. tongue

washington213 Since: Jan, 2013
#36703: Jun 20th 2015 at 9:07:30 PM

With all the references to money in Avengers 2, I gotta wonder, are the Avengers paid? Stark and Thor wouldn't need it, but the others don't exactly seem to have day jobs.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#36704: Jun 20th 2015 at 9:08:53 PM

I assume Hawkeye gets paid quite a bit or he has a lot of savings from his SHIELD days if he can keep tearing about his house on a whim.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#36705: Jun 20th 2015 at 9:29:54 PM

Agents of SHIELD does imply from time to time Stark is bankrolling them all.

But to be specific, Hill, Widow, Hawkeye and Fury probably received hefty government sallaries back in the days of SHIELD. After Winter Soldier and SHIELD's dissolution, Agents of SHIELD shows at least Hill is now working directly for Stark, and the same is true for all others barring Fury who's living in the shadows.

Captain definitely still receives some sort of payment by the US government both due his role in WWII and due the fact he's a pseudo-agent of the government of sorts.

Thor has no need for money, being royalty in another world.

The new team has War Machine (a military officer and government enforcer, so sallary right there), Scarlett and Vision. The last two are probably both paid by Stark.

Banner is also on Stark's payroll, most likely.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#36706: Jun 20th 2015 at 9:30:03 PM

In the comics it varied from writer to writer. Sometimes the Avengers got paychecks, sometimes being on the team itself was enough because they had free room, meal, and board plus per diems.

When Hawkeye got fired from the Avengers he actually had to go out and get a legitimate job because he didn't have any money.

edited 20th Jun '15 9:30:14 PM by comicwriter

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#36707: Jun 20th 2015 at 9:30:35 PM

[up]x5 That's not really what foreshadowing is. If the writers didn't intentionally slip in a wink-and-nudge to a future plot point, it's not foreshadowing, it's just a natural development of the story.

edited 20th Jun '15 9:31:24 PM by spashthebandragon

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36708: Jun 20th 2015 at 9:36:06 PM

When Hawkeye got fired from the Avengers he actually had to go out and get a legitimate job because he didn't have any money.

"What are your qualifications?"

"Well, I once blew up a godlike interdimensional being with a TNT arrow."

"So... 'goal oriented?'"

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#36709: Jun 20th 2015 at 9:45:06 PM

If Hawkeye got fired from the Avengers he could just go work for the Justice League.

He is a member after all.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36710: Jun 20th 2015 at 9:49:13 PM

Does Batman actually pay anyone in the Justice League? I mean, I know he bankrolls all the equipment and stuff, but I don't think he actually gives the members any money.

He definitely doesn't pay Clark.

Also:

"Okay guys, I'm here... don't look at me like that, it's your buddy Hawkeye! Wait! I'm an honorary member, I swear! What the hell is a 'reboot?'"

Several months later:

"Okay, I'm back in my universe. Wait... everyone looks different. Aw hell, not again!"

edited 20th Jun '15 9:52:22 PM by KnownUnknown

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#36712: Jun 20th 2015 at 11:34:03 PM

I know about Fiction 500 and all, but how much fucking money does Stark have?

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#36713: Jun 20th 2015 at 11:35:30 PM

I don't think Steve ever has to pay anything while he's in America. He can just go "Hi. I'm Captain America."

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#36714: Jun 20th 2015 at 11:45:46 PM

Does Batman actually pay anyone in the Justice League? I mean, I know he bankrolls all the equipment and stuff, but I don't think he actually gives the members any money.

They get some sort of financial allowance. There was a plot point about a working class villain who got offered reserve membership and kept talking about how his family was now on easy street because they didn't have to work for a living anymore.

edited 21st Jun '15 12:10:47 AM by comicwriter

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#36715: Jun 20th 2015 at 11:55:21 PM

Steve seems like a polite enough guy that he'd still pay anyway. I mean, Harry Truman grew up in Steve's time, and he insisted on paying for things, even stamps with his face on them, while he was President.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#36716: Jun 21st 2015 at 2:47:15 AM

Part of Avengers Disassembled was that the Avengers stopped getting funds from the government after Tony got drunk without drinking a glass and made fun of a diplomat(might've been from Latveria) caused by the Scarlet Witch. Tony couldn't pay for the Avengers on his own at the time so the team split for awhile.

Later after the team reformed Tony let Peter and his family live in Avengers tower after a villain blew up Aunt May's home and MJ and Peter's apartment. After Civil War Peter and MJ quickly lost most of their saved up money because they had to stay hidden and live in motels and also pay for doctors to try to save May after being shot by one of Kingpin's hitmen. Then OMD happened.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#36717: Jun 21st 2015 at 7:54:23 AM

@spashthebandragon: tongue I know that, it was a joke. I'm pretty sure I stole it from the Homestuck fandom.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#36719: Jun 21st 2015 at 4:44:41 PM

[up][up][up]and also pay for doctors to try to save May after being shot by one of Kingpin's hitmen.

Well, Spidey did ask Tony if he could help May, but Tony kinda spat in his face if I recall correctly. Something about seeing it as aiding and abiding a known felon.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36720: Jun 21st 2015 at 4:48:27 PM

[up]...

{Brings out old picture of photoshopped Civil War!Tony with Hitler mustache.}

HIEL, MIEN FURHER!!!

edited 21st Jun '15 4:48:53 PM by kkhohoho

zam Since: Jun, 2009
#36721: Jun 21st 2015 at 8:28:30 PM

Luckily the Civil War film won't destroy Tony's character. ... Hopefully.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#36722: Jun 21st 2015 at 9:41:27 PM

From the rumors coming out for it the conflict between the two sides doesn't even seem to be the most important storyline but rather the most attention-drawing subplot, and they'll probably make up or reach some sort of truce by the third act.

edited 21st Jun '15 10:25:06 PM by AlleyOop

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#36723: Jun 22nd 2015 at 12:03:18 AM

Still think that ca will only show the start of civil war

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#36724: Jun 22nd 2015 at 12:10:19 AM

Truth is the idea of Civil War is far too big to handle in just one movie. Like how Infinity War is too big to handle in one movie so they've made it the focal point of the entire MCU at this point. Also like how Mutant Registration is the overriding theme of X-Men.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36725: Jun 22nd 2015 at 12:39:14 AM

Ooh, I wonder if Civil War means we'll get the MCU version of Penance!

You may boo now, but it'll all be worth it for a scene like this somewhere down the line.


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