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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#36626: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:10:01 PM

Well, yeah, but they weren't even born when the myths about them originated, so I made that theory.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#36627: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:12:02 PM

We have no idea how time works on Asgard, so they could have been born and inspired the myths.

Also, the MCU could have the Ragnarok Cycle, like the MU. (Especially since the next movie is called Thor: Ragnarok.) That's what I believe makes the most sense.

edited 19th Jun '15 7:14:41 PM by alliterator

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#36628: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:23:23 PM

Pretty sure Loki at least was born in the late 900's, at the end of the war with the Jotuns.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#36629: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:24:24 PM

[up]x5

If I'm reading the list right, he could smoke crack cocaine...but not tobacco. Which is really a point aside since I don't think drug use has ever really been a part of Spider-Man's character.

As for the...demographic restrictions, I can't say I'm all that surprised but it still is a little weird to see them spelled out like that. Of course there's nothing stopping Marvel from exploring other spider-powered heroes, and they should since it's something the previous iterations of Spider-Man never really explored.

I'd say sprinkle in other spider-men/women in both the Spider-Man movies (starting with Gwen Stacy before the end of the first Spider-man standalone) and other MCU films and so when he goes up against the Sinister Six in the 3rd Spider-Man movie he won't be quite so outnumbered.

edited 19th Jun '15 7:25:16 PM by Falrinn

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#36630: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:27:46 PM

Pretty sure Loki at least was born in the late 900's, at the end of the war with the Jotuns.

And according to Wikipedia, the earliest references to Loki are about 1000 CE, making it entirely possible. Heck, the Poetic Edda wasn't written until the 13th century.

edited 19th Jun '15 7:28:01 PM by alliterator

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36631: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:29:59 PM

The Norse myths have probably been around for longer than that though.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36632: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:30:08 PM

It's worth noting that while the Asgardians of the comics are gods with divine powers and all that, the Asgardians of the MCU are Sufficiently Advanced Aliens.

Also, if the Asgardians of the movies were constantly reincarnating, we'd know it by now. For one, Bor wouldn't still be dead.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36634: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:34:04 PM

Bor fought the Dark Elves 5000 years ago while the universe is billions of years old. There's plenty of time for him and the others to have multiple incarnations.

edited 19th Jun '15 7:34:16 PM by Kostya

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#36635: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:36:08 PM

It's worth noting that while the Asgardians of the comics are gods with divine powers and all that, the Asgardians of the MCU are Sufficiently Advanced Aliens.

If Earth X is canon, that means the Asgardians (and all gods) are Sufficiently Advanced Aliens, too.

I mean, the Asgardians have always walked that fine line between "actual gods" and "super-advanced aliens posing as gods." At the moment, they are somewhere in the middle, with magic and technology.

edited 19th Jun '15 7:36:54 PM by alliterator

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#36636: Jun 19th 2015 at 7:38:51 PM

The actual space gods tend to mess with preconceptions of gods and aliens too.

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#36637: Jun 20th 2015 at 12:36:06 AM

Marvel Gods are kind of just a happy mess. What we have works but it's unclear if you look at comics written in different periods.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36638: Jun 20th 2015 at 1:27:07 AM

Something I noticed about the spider-man restrictions: He can't be gay, but he can be any other non-het sexuality.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#36639: Jun 20th 2015 at 2:08:51 AM

[up] So asexual, or the movie is rated R.

The world will look up and shout "Save us", and I'll look down and whisper "Too bad, Waluigi Time" Vote Loki 2016
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36640: Jun 20th 2015 at 2:14:22 AM

... Sorry, what?

Oh, right. I forgot bisexuality was illegal and couldn't be shown in anything but adult-restricted movies.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#36641: Jun 20th 2015 at 3:10:51 AM

[up] It is actually. Any movie with homosexual content gets rated R.

edited 20th Jun '15 3:11:26 AM by jdj42

The world will look up and shout "Save us", and I'll look down and whisper "Too bad, Waluigi Time" Vote Loki 2016
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36642: Jun 20th 2015 at 3:12:42 AM

I really can't tell if you're being ironic now.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36644: Jun 20th 2015 at 3:22:46 AM

That doesn't mean him just being bi would get an R rating. Just if he kissed a dude, apparently. Which is really fucking stupid, but the distinction is important.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#36645: Jun 20th 2015 at 6:53:40 AM

RE: Leaked list of Spidey specifications:

Yeesh, just how easy is it to leak stuff at Sony?

EDIT: Also, it just hit me. They're doing a new Spidey movie. How are Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone taking it? I can imagine Andrew being at least a little butthurt that his time as Spidey didn't last as long as Tobey Maguire's...

edited 20th Jun '15 7:00:13 AM by TargetmasterJoe

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#36646: Jun 20th 2015 at 6:57:31 AM

[up]What are you talking about? There were only two Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies.

THERE WERE ONLY TWO.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#36647: Jun 20th 2015 at 7:05:53 AM

[up]

...

...

Actually I'm pretty sure that there is a trope page for Spider-Man 3...

(Spash pulls out a minigun from out of nowhere.)

0_0

...is what I would say if we actually did have a page for it, but I guess we don't, so ok.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36648: Jun 20th 2015 at 7:16:31 AM

Well, there were two movies, and then they released a scene where Peter is in a leather jacket acting like a huge weirdo.

I wonder what the context for that was supposed to be. Ah well.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#36649: Jun 20th 2015 at 7:22:52 AM

[up]Turns out, it was a scene from a third movie that apparently was in production, but never saw the light of day after a disastrous test screening. (Critics were vomiting, the other audience members were getting out their shotguns; it was a fricking nightmare.) Rumour has it that you can download it from some backwater bootleg site, if you want to see just what made the unfinished film so 'legendary'. Just like the 90's Fantastic Four movie!

edited 20th Jun '15 7:23:31 AM by kkhohoho

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#36650: Jun 20th 2015 at 7:24:47 AM

I somehow missed most of the Spider-specification. Apart from Peter being white and straight, what else does it say?


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