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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#36401: Jun 12th 2015 at 10:47:22 PM

I was always skeptical of the idea that they wanted an actual 14-15 year old in the role because quite frankly, that can go bad real easily. You never know how puberty is gonna hit someone and if they really wanted the new series to focus on Peter in high school for more than one film, that could be a serious issue.

Especially since you're still likely getting at least two years between sequels.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#36402: Jun 13th 2015 at 12:06:44 AM

I am not sold on Holland. Of all the actors they supposedly put in the final running he is my least favourite one, mostly because he is build in a way which suggests that he will more stocky than lithe when he is truly grown up.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#36403: Jun 13th 2015 at 9:40:16 AM

Shame about Butterfield. Never saw Hugo but he was quite good in Ender's Game.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36404: Jun 13th 2015 at 9:49:58 AM

I also share some disappointment about Asa Butterfield. He was the only candidate I ever cared about.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#36405: Jun 13th 2015 at 9:53:03 AM

Yeah, guy felt like he'd be a great Spidey.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#36406: Jun 14th 2015 at 1:08:01 PM

Sounds like we're gonna find out who will be America's Next Top Spider-Man very soon.

Oy, I don't know about any of you guys, but the suspense is killing me!

edited 14th Jun '15 1:08:49 PM by TargetmasterJoe

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#36408: Jun 14th 2015 at 4:17:44 PM

[up]Figuratively.

But really, that article says we could get an announcement as early as next week. And who saw the whole "Punisher coming to the MCU" thing coming? When I first heard of that on IGN, I was like "Wait, what?"

What if they do the same with Spidey?

EDIT: Also, anyone have theories on what the Spidey suit will look like since they said it was going to be different from the other ones and I don't think you could ask for a more faithful take on it than the one in TASM 2...

edited 14th Jun '15 4:20:11 PM by TargetmasterJoe

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#36409: Jun 14th 2015 at 6:00:44 PM

I predict it will have a spider somewhere on it.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36410: Jun 14th 2015 at 6:03:08 PM

It'll probably be red and blue.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#36411: Jun 14th 2015 at 6:11:19 PM

It will be made of flexible cloth and shaped like a human being.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36413: Jun 14th 2015 at 6:16:44 PM

I kind of hope we see the web wings.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#36416: Jun 14th 2015 at 6:48:39 PM

As far as costume design goes, I'm most interested in how they are going to handle the webshooters. Since he's in the MCU now, they might as well go down a road that the other films couldn't of.

Depending on how big of a role he has in Civil War I could see him starting off either with no webshooters or a beta version of the webshooters before getting his hands on a Stark prototype and integrating it into his suit.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36417: Jun 14th 2015 at 6:51:17 PM

I'd prefer if they just went with the organic web shooters.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#36418: Jun 14th 2015 at 6:51:28 PM

Spidey doesn't need Stark to make his webshooters. It'd be kind of lame if he did.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36419: Jun 14th 2015 at 6:54:10 PM

Ultron I can accept, but the last thing Stark needs to be responsible for are Spider-Man's Web Shooters.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#36420: Jun 14th 2015 at 7:14:59 PM

[up]I'm thinking something more like Peter repurposes an already existing design, potentially one only vaguely related to launching strands of material, rather than Tony Stark actually building them in any literal sense.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36421: Jun 14th 2015 at 7:18:05 PM

That's no better than what the Amazing Spider-Man movies did with the artificial webbing, a move I was also not a fan of.

Point is, I want to see threeboot Peter build his own web shooters and make his own spider webbing without the help of any existing MCU character.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36423: Jun 14th 2015 at 7:26:47 PM

I liked them in the Spider-Man Trilogy because I felt the implementation was a resonable consequence of getting the rest of his spider-like abilites. I also generally like them as an evolution of Peter's already spider-enhanced body, and in the end of the day it's a preferable route to having someone else be responsible for the web shooters.

My issue here is the web shooters and synthetic webbing are the best indicators of Peter's intelligence and engineering. He has too much to lose by handing credit for those inventions over to someone else in an adaptation.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#36424: Jun 14th 2015 at 8:21:25 PM

RE the "candidates", only know of Tom Holland because I saw him in Wolf Hall. He doesn't have many lines but he does some good emoting and he is kind of "stolid" looking.

RE the webshooters- I thought ASM did a good job in showing a webshooter that both showcased Peter's intelligence and was something he could have built with available resources.

edited 14th Jun '15 8:22:56 PM by Hodor2

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#36425: Jun 14th 2015 at 8:29:37 PM

Yeah as with the "What do you mean Black Panther has a plane?!" argument from a few days ago, I really don't need Tony to have involvement (no matter how indirect) in everyone else's tech.

It was more understandable in Phases 1 and 2 when he was really the only genius character, but now that we're getting into properties like Ant-Man, BP and Spider-Man I'd rather they make their own tech.

And besides I always thought the comics' idea that Peter has to spend money to make more web fluid to be an interesting idea that wasn't really played up enough.


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