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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#36376: Jun 12th 2015 at 7:19:23 AM

bigger than them

Like Giant-Man?

edited 12th Jun '15 7:19:32 AM by TenebrousGaze

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#36377: Jun 12th 2015 at 7:31:54 AM

...which is the best time to do so, because you don't have to answer for anything! Because you'll be fucking dead.

While refusing to do so can make for some downright amazing last words.

In his dying moments, the author Voltaire was asked by a priest to renounce Satan before he passes. He retorted with, "Now is not the time for making enemies."

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#36378: Jun 12th 2015 at 9:14:51 AM

Marvel doesn't have the best track record with villains who are subjects of or even partners of other villains, Nebula being the exception.

I dunno; Justin Hammer and the fake Mandarin turned out pretty well.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#36380: Jun 12th 2015 at 9:48:02 AM

[up][up]And if we include the TV series, we have Wesley, Ward and Raina.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#36381: Jun 12th 2015 at 10:02:28 AM

Well, not so much Wesley or Raina anymore.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#36382: Jun 12th 2015 at 10:05:41 AM

And Dottie! Dottie is awesome!

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36383: Jun 12th 2015 at 10:21:43 AM

I disagree about Hammer (I feel like the amount of effort that went into making him ineffectual both neutered him as an antagonist and lessened the weight of Vanko's Eviler than Thou toward him as well), and I don't really see Fake Mandarin as a minion (the minion/dragon I think of from that movie is Savin, who is extremely flat) - and even so Slattery's only one of three in that movie.

I wasn't counting the tv shows because they don't typically show the same problems in the same ways as the films.

I admit Zola is another exception, though. As, arguably, is Raza.

edited 12th Jun '15 10:24:46 AM by KnownUnknown

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#36384: Jun 12th 2015 at 1:22:53 PM

I'm hoping that Mordo is not just some comic relief villain to make Strange look good like Hammer was to Stark. I was talking with someone else about the guy since I'm not all too familiar with Dr. Strange and apparently Mordo in the comics has a rather pathetic track record as a villain being mostly an advance man for bigger bads and an ineffective one at that. At one point he actually hired a sniper to take Strange out because his magic alone couldn't do the job.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#36385: Jun 12th 2015 at 1:34:32 PM

Well, Chiwetel Ejiofor isn't really known for his comedic roles, not like Sam Rockwell. Ejiofor is known for his dramatic roles and for his great role in playing the villainous-yet-sympathetic Operative in Serenity.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#36386: Jun 12th 2015 at 1:39:00 PM

Well, rumor is that Sony and Marvel are in conflict about the main actor for Spider-man. Too early to be angry about anything, but I hope it won't be Holland. Nothing against him, but just looking at him I predict that he will be a little bit stocky in a few years. Plus...wrong hands (yeah, still obsessing about that).

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36387: Jun 12th 2015 at 1:50:02 PM

Strange doesn't lend himself to having very comedic archenemies, either. Like Thor, his big villains tend to be very... grand.

I could definitely see Mordo being an enormous ham, though. In fact, I'd say it's required.

edited 12th Jun '15 1:50:48 PM by KnownUnknown

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#36388: Jun 12th 2015 at 2:00:37 PM

I can see Mordo being very Operative-esque. You know, praising Strange even as he fights against him.

It will all probably be rife with, you know, Ho Yay.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#36389: Jun 12th 2015 at 2:02:18 PM

[up][up]The same could be said of Iron Man and well...

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#36391: Jun 12th 2015 at 7:43:09 PM

Regarding America's Next Top Spider-Man:

And then there were two...

And neither of them is Asa Butterfield...

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#36392: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:23:18 PM

......I thought Marvel was looking for an actor for Spider-man who was at least 15 or younger. I mean, 19 is just one year away from being a twenty-something, and that was Andrew Garfield when he was cast as Spidey.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#36393: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:27:28 PM

A few years older isn't that bad compared to most Dawson Casting choices. Garfield was around 28 or 29 when the first Amazing Spider-Man was released.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36394: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:27:43 PM

Wait, what?

They cast him over ten years ago?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#36395: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:30:20 PM

Um, no, they didn't cast Garfield when he was 19. They cast him when he was 27 (in 2010).

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#36396: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:30:54 PM

... I'm confused now.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#36397: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:32:28 PM

Being 27 is a "20 something".

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#36398: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:33:04 PM

[up][up] Garfield was in his twenties when he was cast as Spidey, right? So these two apparent frontrunners for Spidey right now are both 19, which isn't too far off from being in your twenties. Besides, I thought that Marvel was looking actors that were a bit younger than just 19.

edited 12th Jun '15 8:33:34 PM by higherbrainpattern

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#36399: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:34:01 PM

It's...closer to be thirty than it is to being twenty, though. I mean, tacking "something" onto it doesn't really work when it ranges from "twenty-one" to "twenty-nine." Especially when now they want to cast someone in their teens.

What I'm saying is: nineteen is younger than twenty-seven, especially when you have three movies coming out in, like, ten years.

edited 12th Jun '15 8:34:50 PM by alliterator

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#36400: Jun 12th 2015 at 8:51:42 PM

...Did Dr. Doom shoot Mephisto with a water pistol?

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