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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#35976: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:51:31 AM

Any reason it took so long to air in Japan? Only thing I can think of is the scenes in Korea but that's highly doubtful.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#35977: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:58:44 AM

Doubt it's that. Japan has some worrying stereotypes about Korea, but not so much that it would slow down a movie release that features a Korean as an important secondary character.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#35978: Jun 4th 2015 at 9:00:00 AM

Always remember the great posters for Marvel movies in Japan.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35979: Jun 4th 2015 at 9:45:38 AM

Sometimes foreign markets take longer to air American films because they only import a certain amount. And since American blockbusters tend to overshadow any homemade productions, they'll sometimes space them out a little more so the box office isn't ruled by these movies for months on end.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#35980: Jun 4th 2015 at 10:03:55 AM

[up][up]"Iron Man feat. The Avengers"

I'm personally not bothered if Avengers 2 doesn't make the money the first one did. In my opinion, the money the movies have been making are all over the place in relation to their quality. I'd be happy if 2 doing lower than 1 reflected quality (in my opinion) for once.

I wish Mad Max Fury Road made a lot more money, though.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35981: Jun 4th 2015 at 2:26:26 PM

Yeah...it's still one of the highest grossing films of all time, so I'm sure they're really kicking themselves over it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#35982: Jun 4th 2015 at 3:03:37 PM

I honestly doubt that it will make less in the end. I expect Age of Ultron to make more than The Avengers due to the higher international gross. The whole thing is mostly interesting because there are people who claim that the lower domestic gross is a sign that people are "tired" of Superhero movies, which I think is a big pile of nonsense. For me the interesting part is that obviously the international market has now caught on, too.

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#35983: Jun 4th 2015 at 3:07:48 PM

Seriously. So tired are people of Superhero movies that the most recent one is the #6 highest grossing film of all time and coming up fast on the #5 slot.

Only in the superhero fandom is hitting the Top Ten Charts a sign of imminent failure.

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lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#35984: Jun 4th 2015 at 3:20:07 PM

I think it's kind of a yearning for older cinema. Some folks will never take storytelling in a comic film seriously. I can't say I blame them. However, many fans of the material are finally getting to see great stories adapted and more people are getting to see why those stories were so great in the first place.

It could be a sorta general dislike of a new thing. It is perceived as new and there for a fad and all fads have a limited lifespan. Of course, many of the same things were said of rock n' roll, the internet, movable type etc. I'd say that rock n' roll is here to stay and so are comic based adaptations.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35985: Jun 4th 2015 at 3:29:26 PM

IMO it happens every time there's a genre or style that happens to take over cinema. At one point it was kung-fu movies and sci-fi ruining cinema and before that it was cowboys.

GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#35986: Jun 4th 2015 at 3:33:00 PM

If Freeman is playing the Prime Minister of England and has the attitude they speculate he has I could see him wanting to create an operative for his government, Captain Britain.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35987: Jun 4th 2015 at 3:34:17 PM

Then he gets sued for copyright infringement.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#35989: Jun 4th 2015 at 4:29:54 PM

And Chris Prat said that he cried after reading the script. It will be really hard to try to keep obvious this time around. I can't wait for this movie.

Though I doubt that there will really "less" characters in the second part. The guardians will be there. The Ravengers will be there. Nebula will be there. The first movie had in addition to those characters the Nova corps, the Collector, Ronan and Korath. The new movie will have for sure some sort of villain and Starlords father. I guess in the end they will have roughly the same number of characters.

edited 4th Jun '15 4:33:42 PM by Swanpride

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35990: Jun 4th 2015 at 4:36:23 PM

Less isn't much of a stretch since we don't know which supporting characters will be returning. And even then GOTG was a cameo factory so it's not hard to have less characters involved this time.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#35991: Jun 4th 2015 at 5:00:05 PM

I'm thinking more and more that Martin Freeman is playing Jim Jaspers, which makes sense.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#35992: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:03:51 PM

I don't think they'll introduce an insanely over powered (and just plain insane) Reality Warper right now. He's way too out of scale for the MCU, at least until Infinity War.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#35993: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:05:09 PM

He may not be a reality warper in the movie, but if the rumors are true, he's a Prime Minister who pushes anti-superhero legislation, just like Jim Jaspers.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35994: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:05:53 PM

It's possible they're compositing or even altering him so that those powers are either less or don't exist. Looking at his general story - "superhuman who stokes the flames of an anti-superhuman movement in order to give himself more power" sounds like it would work, especially alongside whatever manipulations Zola is making.

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#35995: Jun 4th 2015 at 7:14:56 PM

Would be nice to see Martin Freeman play someone else than, well, Martin Freeman.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#35996: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:20:50 PM

@Swanpride: Are you sure that the Ravagers will be there? Granted, they were involved with Peter's father, but the first film seemed to end the relationship between Peter and Yondu on a fairly solid note. If Gunn wants to have less characters, then the Ravagers ought to be the first to go.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#35997: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:29:27 PM

He has said Yondu and Kraglin (the first mate) are in the script, so presumably the Ravagers will make an appearance.

My crackiest theory on what will happen: It turns out that Yondu is from the future and he and his team - the future Guardians of the Galaxy - found the Time Stone and used it to escape the horrible future and that's why he was looking for the Power Stone, etc.

I mean, that's probably not going to happen at all, but it would be interesting.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#35998: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:32:34 PM

[up] Huh. Okay then.

Oh God! Natural light!
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#35999: Jun 4th 2015 at 8:33:45 PM

I mean, Kraglin is played by Sean Gunn, James's brother. Gotta get him work somehow!

(I'm joking, Sean Gunn is a great actor, he was great in Gilmore Girls.)

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#36000: Jun 4th 2015 at 9:11:13 PM

Actually, that would be an interesting way to work in the Time Stone.

As for Mad Jim Jaspers having too great a power as a Reality Warper to fit into the setting, well they already had a Reality Warper in Wanda, and, as I've stated prior, they turned her into Jean Grey.


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