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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35951: Jun 3rd 2015 at 9:05:35 AM

The first draft of Guardians 2 is completed, and Chris Pratt says he teared up upon hearing some of the plot details.

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#35952: Jun 3rd 2015 at 9:09:24 AM

"And another thing..."

So he wanted to reformat the planet and ensure he'd survive, but his supposed sole base of production was the means to do so, and every body of himself was at or directly above ground zero?

The more I think about this movie, the dumber it gets. And I haven't even gotten into everything wrong with the Mind Gem.

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#35954: Jun 3rd 2015 at 9:33:39 AM

Above, specifically. And they fly, so it's not like they were planning to ride the meteor down.

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#35955: Jun 3rd 2015 at 10:31:31 AM

Plan A was the obvious Evil AI plan of just firing all the nukes

During the movie I ignored my nagging brain for this part, but this part keeps having me thinking that Ultron would have had a very good reason to not attempt nuclear destruction. Nukes create EMPs, so Ultron might have ended up frying anything electronic he could use in process of slaughtering humanity.

That might raise the question if he's EMP-hardened, but I get the feeling that Iron Man won't be if he fights Winter Soldier, which would likely mean Ultron wasn't either. Just a theory, though.

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#35956: Jun 3rd 2015 at 10:35:27 AM

If he had gone with operation nuke 'em all, he might have prepared a bunker where he could safeguard a himself.

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#35957: Jun 3rd 2015 at 10:36:21 AM

Like his base of operations in Sokovia. He could have EMP-shielded the plant where he was manufacturing his drones.

edited 3rd Jun '15 10:36:27 AM by TobiasDrake

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#35958: Jun 3rd 2015 at 11:15:02 AM

Unrelatedly. Don't know if this has been brought up, but Black Panther fans are doing stuff. Faux magazine covers talking about how Super Special Awesome T'Challa and his Bodyguard Babes are. It's quite interesting.

edited 3rd Jun '15 11:15:28 AM by Eagal

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35959: Jun 3rd 2015 at 11:23:17 AM

Those are all very cool.

Jackson says he's not in Civil War but is going in to renew his contract. Then again Anthony Mackie also spent months telling people he wasn't in Age of Ultron, so I'm not sure how reliable that is.

edited 3rd Jun '15 11:24:41 AM by comicwriter

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35960: Jun 3rd 2015 at 12:12:36 PM

To be fair, it looked like Mackie legitimately had no idea he was in the movie until they brought him in to shoot. His appearance did seem a bit last minute, and Marvel in general typically doesn't tell their actors anything until the moment they need to know.

edited 3rd Jun '15 12:12:58 PM by KnownUnknown

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#35961: Jun 3rd 2015 at 12:24:32 PM

Of course Jackson wants a contract extension. Unlike most of the actors involved in the MCU, playing Nick Fury was his idea. He gave them his likeness rights for the comics on the grounds that he gets to be Nick Fury if movies are made. This is a dream fulfilled for him.

Unlike the other actors, I would be genuinely shocked if Jackson's contract came up and he went, "Nah, I think I'm done. It's been a good ride, but I got other stuff I want to do now."

edited 3rd Jun '15 12:26:08 PM by TobiasDrake

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#35962: Jun 3rd 2015 at 12:29:07 PM

You gotta love Samuel L. Jackson. He stands out as a guy who really loves acting, and as such plays fun and outrageous roles completely unabashed.

I'd bet that even on the off-chance Marvel's money dried up and they couldn't pay for big name actors any more, Sam Jack would still gladly do it.

edited 3rd Jun '15 12:30:27 PM by KnownUnknown

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#35963: Jun 3rd 2015 at 1:03:08 PM

Sam Jackson is also the only big name actor from the movies to appear in Agents of SHIELD - they probably asked him and he said, "Sure."

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#35964: Jun 3rd 2015 at 1:18:08 PM

Hayley Atwell had a cameo, too.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#35965: Jun 3rd 2015 at 1:32:34 PM

I think he really loves this role. Which is part of the reason why it is so much fun to watch him. [up]Hayley Atwell is great, but she is not as famous as SLJ. Plus, she mostly had a cameo in order to tie in to her own show. They didn't really make such a big deal around Peggy being the founder for SHIELD in Ao S before Agent Carter came around.

edited 3rd Jun '15 1:34:24 PM by Swanpride

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#35966: Jun 3rd 2015 at 2:51:20 PM

On a Reddit AMA, Downey said he'd like to appear in an Agents episode but there were legal issues in the way as of then.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#35967: Jun 3rd 2015 at 3:17:34 PM

[up]Honestly, everytime an actor says "there is red tape" I translate this into "I am too expensive for the show".

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#35968: Jun 3rd 2015 at 3:26:44 PM

Did he say what legal issues? It's not like anime dubs, where you've got union/non-union difficulties. They should all belong to the same union, which helps smooth through that sort of thing.

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#35969: Jun 3rd 2015 at 3:27:18 PM

[up][up] That sounds about right.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35970: Jun 3rd 2015 at 3:38:15 PM

"The red tape is I'd blow the show's casting budget for the entire season."

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#35971: Jun 3rd 2015 at 4:08:46 PM

Yeah, and during Jimmy Kimmell, all of the Avengers actors said they were willing to show up...and I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.

They are contracted to a certain number of movies and, barring cameos, they pretty much have to stick to that number before renegotiating. This probably doesn't include TV shows, so they probably have to ask what amount actors are willing to appear on TV for...

...and Sam Jackson, awesome person that he is, probably agreed to appear for much less than he does in the movies. He not only made a cameo in the second episode, but played a large role in the first season finale.

Since Hayley Atwell was already contracted for TV (with her own show), she probably had no trouble adding in two cameos for Agents of SHIELD.

edited 3rd Jun '15 4:08:54 PM by alliterator

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35973: Jun 3rd 2015 at 5:30:04 PM

Yeah, and during Jimmy Kimmell, all of the Avengers actors said they were willing to show up...and I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen.

They were being pretty sarcastic about it.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35974: Jun 3rd 2015 at 6:00:19 PM

Well the show does air on ABC, one of the companies owned by Disney. It's not like they're gonna say "Are you fucking kidding?"

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#35975: Jun 4th 2015 at 12:32:12 AM

[up][up][up]No surprise there...and since they start in Japan today, there should be one last big jump in the international numbers in the next days.

Age of Ultron will never reach the number The Avengers did domestically, but it most likely will make more overall.


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