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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
For anyone confused about Scarlet Witch's powers
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Short answer is, you don't because it didn't work.
Long answer is, it was built to contain the Phoenix after observing the effects of Thor's hammer on its cosmic energy. The first away team engaged the Phoenix in space and discovered that Mjolnir had the ability to repel the beast. The second away team attempted to contain it with super-science derived from the first away team's discovery, but failed.
When the Phoenix arrived on Earth, Stark attempted to do the same with the Phoenixbuster, a glorified Hulkbuster with a larger containment unit, but failed miserably; instead, he fractured the Phoenix, causing it to latch onto five nearby hosts: Cyclops, Emma Frost, Namor, Magik, and Colossus. This created the Phoenix Five and ushered in the second half of Avengers v. X-Men.
It's possible that, with more time to work and not being distracted by a pointless battle with the X-Men, Stark's Phoenixbuster may have been able to pull it off. But it's also possible that it could never have worked. We'll never know.
edited 2nd Jun '15 9:08:06 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Professor X had contingency plans for all the X-Men as I recall.
The one for Wolverine was to decapitate him with a laser and then lock his head in a safe.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersCan't she project energy fields? That makes things tricky unless he can find a way to neutralize those. For Thor he can probably build something to siphon off his lightning but he'd still have to deal with his incredible strength. I don't even know what he could do about Vision's intsngibility powers.
Five minutes after Vision was introduced, practically everyone had things that counteracted his intangibility powers.
Certain kinds of forcefields, disruptor fields. Its actually not that hard to counteract.
Him turning diamond hard and kinetic bombing you though...
edited 2nd Jun '15 9:45:35 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersNot even the element of surprise, just not being taken by surprise. He was directly in front of her when he whipped around and planted the arrow on her forehead.
I would say, if anything, inexperience was her undoing there. Pietro and Wanda seem fairly unskilled at the moment, just riding on their powersets. Wanda only knew how to be an ambush predator, so when Hawkeye actually fought back, she didn't know how to respond and choked - and the window of opportunity to counter an attack like that is, like, half a second at the most. Thinking is not a free action.
Hawkeye's sniper awareness and military reflexes combined with Wanda's lack of practical combat training or experience is what beat the Scarlet Witch in Wakanda. Her uncertainty in direct combat is part of her development, and is ultimately resolved on the floating island.
edited 2nd Jun '15 9:50:49 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Wikipedia says this.
When Tony went evil because dumb, he had an advanced armor that Hawkeye couldn't do shit against.
So, advanced technology is like anti-hawkeye, I guess.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersSome arrows are better than others
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That's the thing about Hawkeye: when you're a one-trick pony, you gotta be versatile
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Hawkeye also takes prank wars
very seriously
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Doesn't look like he'll be upgrading soon, though
. It's just as well, it's not like the others are any better
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Frankly I can see the other way round (Clint having a Starkbuster arrow. Well, an emp I guess) being more likely. As has been said, you just need something sealed and explosion-proof and you're basically there.
Although I think that Hawkeye issue with all the trick arrows (and Kate's initial cynicism) showcases how archery can be reasonably versatile, at least in comics form.

Those
are outstanding.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers