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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35526: May 31st 2015 at 3:25:30 PM

I still think they didn't need to kill anyone. Ms. Cardenas already died. It was already personal enough for the main cast.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#35527: May 31st 2015 at 3:31:01 PM

[up]I thought about that angle right after I hit post and edited it into my post. I do think Fisk had to do something major near the end, less to motivate the protagonists and more to prove that he was closing in on them, but that something didn't actually have to be killing someone. Burning down Ben Uric's house with him inside of it (only for him to manage to crawl out with a few burns) would of had the same narrative impact.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35528: May 31st 2015 at 3:34:08 PM

They could have killed Ben's wife instead but that's not any better.

GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#35529: May 31st 2015 at 4:09:16 PM

[up]Actually it would have made a bit more sense narratively. You brought in my mother, who has so connection to any of this, and made it personal. I'll make it personal for you too.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#35530: May 31st 2015 at 4:13:03 PM

[up]It wouldn't have because it would have been too cold blooded to fit into Fisk's anger issues. They also already have a cross-over character for the Netflix shows. Claire is even more perfect.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#35531: May 31st 2015 at 5:08:52 PM

It would have made a even more chilling scene. Can you imagine Fisk visiting Phil's wife, being all Faux Affably Evil, overall chatting with her about her husband's actions, and then she forgets the conversation and Fisks explains to her she just forgot their entire conversation, but not to worry, she won't forget anything ever again. Fisk curls up his hand into a fist, and prepares for the blow. Smash to Black.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#35532: May 31st 2015 at 5:23:29 PM

It would have been dumb, and a fridging, and I agree that it would have been inconsistent with Fisk's prior behaviour. When he goes into a rage, he kills the people he's angry at directly, not their friends and relatives.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35533: May 31st 2015 at 5:26:34 PM

So, is there any word on who's playing Squirrel Girl in Infinity War? tongue

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#35534: May 31st 2015 at 5:38:10 PM

[up]Is there any word on whether Squirrel Girl will actually be in Infinity War?tongue

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35535: May 31st 2015 at 5:40:53 PM

There's gonna be so many returning characters to pick from that adding in any brand new heroes might be overkill at this point.

AOU ran into problems with nine Avengers. Think how many potential problems a bunch of heroes are gonna raise.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#35536: May 31st 2015 at 5:41:36 PM

What I'd realy find funny is if she actually appears very briefly and Thanos just knocks her out cold and says something like "Finally!".

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35537: May 31st 2015 at 5:46:16 PM

The comic nerds in the audience rejoice.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#35538: May 31st 2015 at 5:49:38 PM

...Now that's just mean.

Especially because the stuff I've heard about her new series sounds really awesome.

Oh God! Natural light!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35539: May 31st 2015 at 5:57:58 PM

Oh no it's just a joke because she seems to have amassed a large Hatedom for some reason or another.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#35540: May 31st 2015 at 6:02:26 PM

[up] Oh, okay then.

Poor Doreen.

Oh God! Natural light!
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#35541: May 31st 2015 at 6:07:47 PM

I think it's the overused joke, meself.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35542: May 31st 2015 at 6:09:44 PM

On the one hand, Squirrel Girl showing up at literally the last second in to defeat Thanos out of nowhere would be glorious.

On the other hand, it probably wouldn't be.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#35543: May 31st 2015 at 6:12:53 PM

What I'd realy find funny is if she actually appears very briefly and Thanos just knocks her out cold and says something like "Finally!".

It could even be Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool. There could be an iris close and re-open with Deadpool going "That's all folks!"

Additional: Yea, I don't like her because I believe she's an overdone joke. Never even read a comic of hers.

edited 31st May '15 6:13:47 PM by GethKnight

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#35544: May 31st 2015 at 6:23:41 PM

They did run her joke into the ground but her solo series isn't too bad if you can get past the craptacular art.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#35545: May 31st 2015 at 6:26:25 PM

What?

I haven't read the comic, but from the pages I've seen, the art style looks really charming?

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#35546: May 31st 2015 at 6:28:42 PM

Conceptually speaking she isn't that bad of a character, but yes the joke has been driven to the ground with all the finnesse of a flying warhammer.

To have her show up only to be anti-climatically defeated for once is the only thing that would get an actual chuckle out of me.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#35547: May 31st 2015 at 6:41:03 PM

In the Squirrel Girl comic's defense, it only did the "Squirrel Girl can easily beat anyone" joke once so far, and it actually showed how she did it, too, instead of making it offscreen. There's really a lot more to her character than just one overdone joke.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
TheAirman Brightness from The vicinity of an area adjacent to a location Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Brightness
#35548: May 31st 2015 at 6:45:27 PM

[up][up]Hey now, Mjolnir is the definition of finnesse.

PSN ID: FateSeraph | Switch friendcode: SW-0145-8835-0610 Congratulations! She/They
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#35549: May 31st 2015 at 6:51:02 PM

It helps that the book is genuinely one of the funniest comics I've ever read, especially the insert cards from Deadpool.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#35550: May 31st 2015 at 7:12:19 PM

For the person asking how Kamala is pronounced, it's "Kam-luh".


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