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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I have two different explanations for Steve not lifting the hammer. 1. He actually could if he wanted, but when he realized that he pretended not to be able to do it. 2. He actually could under the right circumstances, but since he tried it just to prove the a point, the "unworthiness" his reason overrode his overall worthiness.
Which boils down to "Vision was able to do it because he didn't try to proof a point when he grabbed the hammer".
I wouldn't be surprised if Natasha is actually able to lift it simply because she herself doesn't believe that she would be able to and would never try just for fun but only for a serious reason.
Or Thor two: "I am not a coat! Show a little bit more respect."
Back to the "female villain" discussion: Somehow there are more of them in the TV shows and (surprisingly) most of them are not portrayed as honey traps for male heroes. Lorelei is the exception, but then, she is only a one-off villain. But between Dottie, Gao, and Ao S season 2 villain, we already got three really impressive ones. But the movies could really use another one. I personally would have loved it if Maya had been the main villain in Iron Man 3 instead of going for the obvious pick. Especially if it had been NOT about Tony having a one-night stand with her, but about her knowing that he might be able to fix the extremis. In fact, they could have made that her whole motivation, wanting to hide what she did while also searching for a cure for what she did to herself. Nebula is promising, though. Given the history she shares with Gamora, she is the typical villain who should survive multiple encounters.
edited 29th May '15 12:40:30 AM by Swanpride
Hopefully Nebula's movie future isn't the same as her comic past. She makes life a pain for the Avengers and a bunch of other heroes and villains in space while calling herself Thanos granddaughter(Thanos was dead at the time). She even steals old space bases and almost starts galactic wars. Then Thanos comes back, pretty much one shots her with eye beams, brings her back to life(really she's stuck on the edge between live and death and is pretty much a zombie)to try to impress Death and then she does nothing until she manages to take the Gauntlet and then lose it to Warlock. She goes off and becomes a cyborg and then nothing. She then pretty much never takes part in a major storyline until Annihilation where she is revealed to have joined up with Gamora's sisterhood. Ronan beats her easily and she isn't seen again until Gotg1 is out and Marvel needs to bring her back since she's in the movie.
edited 29th May '15 1:13:26 AM by LordofLore
I also thought Nebula was also a lot better written than Ronan, which admittedly isn't saying much. I mean, the Big Bad for GOTG worked alright for what he was, but when you consider whose name is attached to him it feels very much like They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character.
My main problem with the theory that Steve actually could move the Hammer and just chose not to is the epilogue, where Steve and Tony are both desperately trying to save face by arguing that Vision being able to lift Mjolnir didn't really count.
If we were meant to assume that Steve budging the Hammer meant he was faking his inability to lift it, he wouldn't feel the need to join Tony in dismissing the Vision's accomplishment out of wounded pride.
That Mjolnir budged but wouldn't give implies, to me, that Steve is almost Worthy but not quite there yet. Possibly because of his Blood Knight tendencies - which, mind you, is the same character flaw that got Thor exiled in the first place.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Again, we don't know what constitutes worthiness so yes Mjolnir could shift a bit if someone is 'eh, nearly there'
We don't know! The mechanics of this magic science hammer are beyond our comprehension!
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAlso the MCU is doing things differently from the comics. Its hard to imagine but its true. So in the movies the hammer can be slightly budged.
Its like the sorting hat having a tough time placing someone in a house. Except there are only two houses and barely anyone in Gryffindor.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersIt's too soon to necessarily say what the deal with the Hammer is in the comics right now. The enchantment is shunning both Odin and Thor, permitting Inverted Loki to wield it against Thor, and behaving oddly with the one person who can regularly wield it, and all this came about because of a sentence Nick Fury whispered in Thor's ear.
Odin thinks the enchantment on Mjolnir has been tampered with, and while he's misblaming the Hammer's current wielder Jane Foster for doing it, it's too early to say if he's entirely wrong. Mjolnir's behavior has been so unusual as to be downright OOC, and there must be a reason for that.
That. Budging was Mjolnir going, "Mayyyybe-no."
edited 29th May '15 9:52:40 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
"Also he isn't that sweet kid who gave puppies to everyone still. You should look into that."
Thor: "Loki my dear sweet brother, have you grown up?"
Loki: "...Yeeees, let's say that."
Thor: "Good, that Fury guy said strange things. Let's go and watch that film John Wick you've been talking about so much now that you aren't a child any longer."
edited 29th May '15 11:14:19 AM by LordofLore
Evil puberty is a hell of a thing.
Your voice changes, you start feeling sweaty and awkward and then your evil self consumes your soul and wears your body like a husk.
Its just a deeply confusing time in a young man's life.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

I think the hammer is smart enough to tell the difference between being moved by an object and being moved by an intelligent being.