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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I believe that, in the comics, the hammer explicitly don't grant whether control. This is Thor Odinson's thing. It does, however, grant thunder and lighting powers. In the MCU I don't even remember Thor having whether control
No, he couldn't. That suggests his powers are now, if they weren't before, tied to Mjolnir.
Thor also had human like strength and toughness without Mjolnir in the 1st movie, despite being an Asgardian. I am pretty sure this was just Odin's curse. Of course, hard to say how he is now. Maybe Odin lifted the curse, but maybe he didn't.
Bunch of other people did actually, including Superman, Wonderwoman and, I think, Storm. All of the three did it in canon, which is more than Widow ever did (yeah, DC exist in Marvel canon, it is a weird story).
PS:Dear lord this thread is moving fast!
edited 28th May '15 7:56:24 PM by Heatth
Saying that Vision can lift Mjolnir because he's a machine kind of misses the real point of the 'elevator can life hammer' scene
Which was about bruised egos
Soothed through snark.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersSeth is the silliest name for a god of death I've ever heard.
edited 28th May '15 8:02:06 PM by Mukora
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."I still say that Steve could lift the hammer, he just let himself fail because he didn't want to make everyone feel like assholes.
Also, Superman being able to lift the hammer was only a temporary action by Odin removing Mjolnir's enchantment.
What we did learn from JLA/Avengers is that Superman>Thor
My various fanfics.His actual Egyptian name was Set. Up to you whether that's better or worse. (They made an excellent joke about him "collecting the complete set" in The Kane Chronicles.)
He also was not a god of death which was what I was complaining about! He was more chaos and evil and sandstorms and stuff but not death! That was his brother Osiris's thing.
, kinda. Anubis is associated heavily with death, yes, but he's more funeral god than death god. Osiris was the equivalent of Hades in Egyptian myth — Lord of the Underworld and all that. Also literally undead.
edited 28th May '15 8:04:24 PM by Zarek
"We're home, Chewie."Putting aside whether or not Widow is worthy for a moment, if she were able to wield it in canon, when would she ever get a chance to use it unless Thor dies? I doubt that Thor would give it to her to use in a battle while he's walking around not doing anything.
This song needs more love.No, Anubis is the god of... a lot of things, actually. Mummification, afterlife, and he was known to protect tombs in his free time.
Also, Set isn't the god of death. Set is the god of storms and violence.
Egypt didn't really have a god of death. There were multiple gods of the dead, and the afterlife, but none of, like, the physical act of dying.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."Thor's a good guy, definitely. But so is Cap, and he's still not worthy.
I mean, you can put any actual hammer wielder into that sentence
Because we don't know what constitutes worthiness.
Its not spelled out.
Cap could be the greatest guy in the world. But that's according to one set of standards. Mjolnir has its own criteria.
@Lord Vatek: Thor could be knocked the hell out. Doesn't have to be dead. Just out of the fight.
edited 28th May '15 8:06:21 PM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI can't understand what definition of 'worthiness' would mean that Cap wouldn't be able to lift the hammer when Thor can.
But Vision is definitely worthy within the world of Age of Ultron. He's a sentient being; he's no more comparable to an elevator than a human being is to, say, a tree. One can presume that if you put Mjolnir in a tree, it would stay there, and the tree's not worthy; but a human, although also an organic life-form, can't lift the hammer unless they're worthy. The same should logically go for inorganic intelligent beings.
edited 28th May '15 8:06:09 PM by Galadriel
x7 Well, that's exactly what happened in the original comic? I think, anyway.
Like, everyone died, so Nat took Mjolnir in a last stand.
I may be wrong, but that's what the page I linked to made it look like.
edited 28th May '15 8:06:31 PM by Mukora
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
x7 But that would be one battle and if that were the case then it would seem like they had Widow use the hammer just for the sake of her having a moment in the limelight, which would seem a little dishonest. Of course it could be the final battle.
edited 28th May '15 8:18:05 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.Movie-Starlord is somehow less of a jerk than his comic counterpart.
He at least never murdered a coworker so he could get chosen to be given cosmic powers by aliens or had the celestial madonna brainwash people into joining his team.
Plus, movie Star-Lord never called his team Guardians of the Galaxy while spending most of his time in near Earth orbit.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Here's also another thing.