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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#34551: May 19th 2015 at 4:08:01 PM

I am for everything which involves The Winter Soldier. I want to see a lot of him this time around. I can't wait seeing him and Steve talk.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#34552: May 19th 2015 at 4:34:09 PM

Same. I thought the interactions between him and Steve hit all the right emotional notes in both films, whether seen as best friends, brothers, or more. It struck me as oddly dismissive Steve seemed about him in Ultron. I was expecting at least a token mention in Steve's vision considering he seemed pretty regretful about not going back to retrieve his not-actually-dead body.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#34553: May 19th 2015 at 4:52:07 PM

[up]Maybe we'll see something along those lines in the extended edition?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#34554: May 19th 2015 at 4:54:04 PM

It struck me as oddly dismissive Steve seemed about him in Ultron.

Huh? Steve didn't say anything about Bucky in AOU. Sam Wilson just said he was still on that missing person's case and that was it.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#34555: May 19th 2015 at 5:11:54 PM

I thought Steve's vision was more about him having no fucking idea what to do if the war ended.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#34556: May 19th 2015 at 5:15:34 PM

Which strikes me as a little odd.

He's a nice guy who's in top physical condition with a very well-honed sense for organization. He doesn't need to fight to save people, organizing disaster relief efforts and holding up collapsing houses would work just as well.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#34557: May 19th 2015 at 5:17:39 PM

Think about it, though.

He goes into the War because he wants to help people. Becomes a super warrior. Fights and fights and then dies. And then he's not dead anymore, and immediately starts fighting again. He doesn't know how not to fight.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#34558: May 19th 2015 at 5:26:57 PM

[up]Exactly.

You know, if Chris Evans ever does leave the movies, then I think a fitting way to end Steve's arc would be to have him save the day through some sort of action that doesn't involve fighting; in doing so, he sacrifices his life, but is finally at peace, and is able to at last end his fight. Maybe he could do something to this effect at the climax of Infinity War?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#34559: May 19th 2015 at 5:42:39 PM

Civil War had him get assassinated while letting himself be arrested, because he chose to stop fighting Iron Man (for the dumb reason of "why did we fight in the middle of the city", he should know better.) If he's given a better reason to forfeit this time, then it could represent him hanging up that mantle.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#34560: May 19th 2015 at 11:16:56 PM

Actually, I believe Steve jumps in front of the bullet to save someone else. (Of course, Crossbones knew he would do that.) And then Sharon shot him again because she was brainwashed.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#34561: May 20th 2015 at 12:53:31 AM

Yes, but the reason why he was in that line of sight in the first place was because he surrendered. Red Skull and co. could arrange for him being escorted to a sniper nest after he was arrested.

Of course, Winter Soldier's climax showed Steve knows when's the time to cease fighting and when you need to keep punching even when you really don't want to. So it's got to be some different realization, perhaps.

edited 20th May '15 12:54:08 AM by Tuckerscreator

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#34563: May 20th 2015 at 11:18:04 AM

Since he said just a few days ago that he wasn't interested in the current roles offered by DC and Marvel(or something like that) I doubt it.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#34564: May 20th 2015 at 11:34:55 AM

That's not what he said. He said he'd be interested in playing a comic character, but it'd have to be one with a script and take that jumps out and catches him.

edited 20th May '15 11:35:46 AM by comicwriter

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#34565: May 20th 2015 at 11:39:03 AM

I'd be fine with this. I'm just kinda bored with Spider-Man and Osborn movies.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#34566: May 20th 2015 at 11:39:59 AM

-checks-:

"I’ve read some Marvel and DC scripts and I’ve talked about working with them on some scripts, none of which I’ll share with you what they are — or were. Yeah, I’ve circled some of those. Nothing has been right for me yet. But I’m sure open to it."

edited 20th May '15 11:40:22 AM by LordofLore

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#34567: May 20th 2015 at 11:50:39 AM

[up][up]Yeah he'd be cool in the part but I'd rather they not try Green Goblin shit AGAIN.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
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#34569: May 20th 2015 at 12:02:09 PM

The Osborns are such an iconic part of the Spider-Man mythos that expecting them not to show up is like expecting a Batman franchise with no Joker or a Superman franchise that never introduces the Luthors. There's inevitably gonna be Goblins.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#34570: May 20th 2015 at 12:06:38 PM

I don't think anyone would expect there to be none at all but so soon after ASM 2 seems a little much.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#34571: May 20th 2015 at 12:08:28 PM

Goblins! Goblins everywhere! And not a drop to... erm...

We've got green ones! Yellow ones! Grey ones! Red ones! Mutant ones! Ones with steroids! Ones from the future! Ones who frame others into looking like other ones! Ones that pretend to be demons! Ones who are actually demons! And so many more!

It's Goblin wholesale here, people!

edited 20th May '15 12:09:46 PM by KnownUnknown

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#34572: May 20th 2015 at 12:09:17 PM

I'll take a fresh twelve pack of quirky inventor goblins.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#34573: May 20th 2015 at 12:10:06 PM

The Goblin showing up is inevitable, but, like, he doesn't have to be the first thing. Or even as important as you'd expect.

Like, Batman The Brave And The Bold had a Joker, yeah, but for the longest time he never showed up onscreen. I thought that was a neat way to handle an iconic villain- build them up as this kind of mythical figure.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#34574: May 20th 2015 at 12:11:48 PM

[up][up] M'kay, would you like that in "evil split personality" or "driven to madness by an uncurable disease?"

edited 20th May '15 12:12:00 PM by KnownUnknown

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#34575: May 20th 2015 at 12:14:40 PM

... Are these just people in goblin masks?

I thought this was the 'oh god are you actually selling fantasy races as product' store

I have made a horrible mistake.

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