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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#34426: May 18th 2015 at 1:19:02 PM

Not before a year or so ago. He was always "above" humans but he cared for his creations and people he experimented on. He only discarded subjects when he had a chance to experiment on something new(like when he gave Warlock to Great Ultron in exchange for living and seeing if his New Kree factory worked) or when they betrayed him.

edited 18th May '15 1:21:59 PM by LordofLore

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#34427: May 18th 2015 at 1:24:30 PM

His dickery has been fluctuating since HE gets used for retcons a lot

Like, he was one of the retcons for the clone saga

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#34428: May 18th 2015 at 1:37:44 PM

I still can't believe they were thinking about having Mephisto be the one behind the Clone Saga, said "Nah, why would he mess around with Spider-Man?" and then still had Mephisto mess with Peter in One More Day.

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#34429: May 18th 2015 at 1:50:08 PM

It was partially that the proposed story was basically Peter having a bunch of stuff happen to him while playing no real active role in the resolution.

It was also partially that Mephisto really isn't a spider-man villain and oh no it makes him less relatable and street level to fight the devil.

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#34430: May 18th 2015 at 2:03:29 PM

It also makes Mephisto look bad. Like, I should hope the Devil has better things to do with his time than invest a bunch of time and resources in trolling Spider-Man.

This was also a problem when they actually did it in One More Day. It took a lot of logical leaps to make Mephisto buying Spider-Man's marriage with no strings or loops attached make sense, and even after all those leaps, it still feels horrifically OOC for Mephisto.

edited 18th May '15 2:04:43 PM by TobiasDrake

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#34431: May 18th 2015 at 2:09:34 PM

"Don't you usually bother Silver Surfer?"
"He's not returning my calls anymore."

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#34432: May 18th 2015 at 2:15:52 PM

"What about Loki?"

"He's too busy to have time for me nowadays. Our last game was weeks ago!"

"Can't you bring back Adam Warlock and fight him for a few months? You had some good fights back in the day."

"I don't want to have to deal with Magus once again because you know he would also return. That guy is a dick."

edited 18th May '15 2:16:47 PM by LordofLore

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#34434: May 18th 2015 at 3:10:27 PM

Yeah, it makes sense for Mephisto to want to hurt Peter, because Mephisto is a cosmic power and the cosmic powers have decided "Screw Peter Parker in particular."

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#34435: May 18th 2015 at 3:23:15 PM

Peter's last period of peace and happiness was right after he joined the Avengers and right before Civil War IIRC. He was with MJ, Aunt May got together with Jarvis, Steve and Tony were pretty much Peter's godfathers and he had the Avengers as backup if he needed help with a problem he couldn't solve etc.

Then Morlun killed him, he came back from the dead, revealed his identity due to Tony, fought in Civil War on both sides and then Aunt May got shot by a sniper hired by Kingpin from his jail cell. Him picking up the black suit again made sense(also his "fight" with Kingpin is great) but man, he goes from top of the world to the very bottom in like less than a year. Without Civil War everything would still be fine in his life.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#34436: May 18th 2015 at 3:25:56 PM

Aunt May got together with Jarvis

Wait what. Really? That's awesome.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#34437: May 18th 2015 at 4:01:15 PM

It really was. One of the cooler little plot bits that got wiped out of existence thanks to One More Day.

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Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#34438: May 18th 2015 at 4:04:46 PM

Aw man, I was happy and then I was sad.

ONE MORE DAAAAY! *shakes fist*

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#34440: May 18th 2015 at 4:43:40 PM

oh no its cute

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#34441: May 18th 2015 at 5:31:48 PM

And people say the Aunt May movie would have been bad. pfffft!

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#34442: May 18th 2015 at 6:02:28 PM

That was also after May found out that Peter is Spider-Man via a method that should have happened a long time ago: beaten half to death in one of his fights, he came home and passed the f*ck out in his bed, and she walked in on him battered and bleeding in a ripped Spider-Man costume.

After taking some time to gather her thoughts on the matter, she made a choice of what must be done: she began writing nasty letters to J. Jonah Jameson for slandering that poor, heroic Spider-Man.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#34443: May 18th 2015 at 6:04:25 PM

Wait.

Did they just copy that for Amazing Spider-Man and leave out the bit where May actually puts 2 and 2 together?

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#34444: May 18th 2015 at 6:07:29 PM

I want to say yes, but I'm sure there have been plenty of moments in the earlier comics where Peter has to scramble to keep May from discovering his identity.

What made this one work was that he was unconscious and she just walked right in. He didn't have time to make up a bullshit excuse about sweeping a nonexistant chimney.

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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#34445: May 18th 2015 at 6:08:51 PM

Anyone else wish we could get a J. Jonah Jameson movie? Like, have it be a Fantastic Comedy about trying to cover various superhero related news stories, with the way the MCU is changing (with super science and otherworldly powers becoming increasingly common) serving as a metaphor for how changing technology is making print media obsolete.

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#34446: May 18th 2015 at 6:09:36 PM

Sounds a bit like the Marvels book except with someone taking the opposite position

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#34447: May 18th 2015 at 6:10:12 PM

Man, I'm getting so much secondhand Marvel knowledge from this thread, you've no idea.

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Victin Since: Dec, 2011
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#34449: May 18th 2015 at 6:12:01 PM

That's what's I love most about all these movies, honestly. They're good on their own, but learning about all the crazy, weird, or stupid stuff that happened to them in the comics makes it even better.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#34450: May 18th 2015 at 6:21:07 PM

I also learn new stuff from this thread, because I don't read comics, instead I follow spoilers for released comics.


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