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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Okay, just to make a list:
Mainstream!Jessica Drew, aka Spider-Woman, is ex-Hydra.
Ultimate!Jessica Drew, aka the new Black Widow, is an Opposite-Sex Clone of that universe's Peter.
Earth-65!Gwen, aka Spider-Gwen (actually Spider-Woman, but whatever), was bitten by the spider instead of Peter.
Cindy Moon, aka Silk, is from the 616 universe, and is not related to Peter aside from being bitten by the same spider.
Mayday Parker, aka Spider-Girl/Spider-Woman, is Peter's alternate universe daughter from the MC 2 verse who inherited his powers genetically.
edited 17th May '15 10:33:28 AM by Khfan429
7 possible Marvel roles for Martin Freeman
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Personally, my money's on Everett Ross. But that could be a Red Herring...
Honestly though, can anyone picture Martin Freeman as Norman Osborn? Because I can't.
Freeman as Dell Rusk would be pretty interesting if done well, though I don't know if I'd buy him full-out as Red Skull.
Knowing a bit more about Everett Ross' character, I'm not sure if I want them to use him - or, at least, if I want them to use him in the same way he was used in the comics. I greatly despise the "storyline ostensibly about black character but actually focusing on the white character who associates with the black characters" trope.
Freeman as Baron Mordo would be freaking amazing, though again, only if done exactly right. I've never seen Freeman ham it up, so it'd be interesting to see if he could pull off something like that.
If Freeman is playing a villain we should be looking at Fargo to see how he did there recently. I think it's one of his few roles as a villain.
Red Skull really likes being other people. In the Winter Soldier arc in the comics he was killed by Bucky in pretty much the first issue but ended up jumping over into Bucky's master(they ended up sharing space), a russian ex general, using a Cosmic Cube he had in his hand when the bullet hit so he was part of a guy called Aleksander Lukin for a while.
Don't want to come off as being rude, but...
Whoa, spoilers, dude! Not all of us have f(x), you know!
edited 17th May '15 1:12:01 PM by TargetmasterJoe
About Fargo? That's even in the trailers and happens not even halfway through the first episode(the first half of which is him growing angry at the one he ends up murdering). The premise of the series is him trying to not be found out while another murderer/assassin keeps working, 2 hitmen working for the mob comes into town and 2 cops tries to figure stuff out. Then there's a time skip.
It's like saying Steve becomes a super soldier in Cap 1.
edited 17th May '15 1:32:50 PM by LordofLore
Casting Freeman as Gyrich actually sounds like a pretty good idea. And yeah, seconding Knownunknown's concerns about Everett Ross. I liked him well enough in Priest's run (he's mostly there for framing and exposition) and I'd be happy with Freeman, but I don't want him upstaging T'Challa as the actual center of the film.
I think as long as Everett Ross is treated no differently then say, a German ambassador would be in an American film, he's fine. But I do agree that Black Panther absolutely needs to be the undisputed main character in his own film. I would even limit what sort of exposition Ross is used for to how the outside world relates to Wakanda rather then Wakandan culture being explained to him.
None of this really matters for Civil War of course. Here Ross just needs to be a member of the government that crosses paths with Black Panther.
edited 17th May '15 3:16:08 PM by Falrinn
Avengers 2 passed Furious 7 according to them
My dreamcast Norman Osborn is Bryan Cranston. He does the right amount of overacting without chewing the scenery.
My dreamcast Norman Osborn is John Oxendine
◊. Because clearly he is the only person in the world who can make the hair work.
edited 17th May '15 5:03:10 PM by Heatth
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I believe the trap they need to avoid is that since Wakanda is a fictitious nation, it'll be tempting to show the nation through a newcomer's eyes since it's a lot easier to do exposition that way. I think it's very important that we see Wakanda through Black Panther's eyes in the film.
The alternative would be to ensure that the opening sequence of the Black Panther movie gives even the most uninformed audience member a good sense of what Wakanda is all about from the perspective of the Wakandans themselves. While there are other options, I'd say the best way would be to open the movie showing Klaw's ancestor mounting his failed invasion of Wakanda during the colonial era, but shown almost entirely from the perspective of the Black Panther of that era.
edited 17th May '15 5:34:30 PM by Falrinn
Wow...that went faster than expected...Age of Ultron is now at place eight at the all-time worldwide box office, directly behind Iron Man. Meaning that Marvel now has produced officially the three highest grossing Superhero movies of all time. And yes, it has indeed a higher domestic box office that Fa F 7 has.
I don't think that it will reach the domestic numbers of The Avengers, but Internationally, it is certainly closing in fast now that china has been added to the market.
"storyline ostensibly about black character but actually focusing on the white character who associates with the black characters"
Okay, here's where this gets interesting: Everett K. Ross is from the Black Panther run by Christopher Priest. Priest was one of the few black writers at Marvel, but he always felt pigeonholed in writing black characters, so he would always try to write black and white characters in his books (he wrote Power Man and Iron Fist and Captain America and the Falcon). And, apparently, when he started writing Black Panther, he couldn't really figure out how to write T'Challa — and that's when he got the idea of Everett K. Ross, a Chandler-like sidekick who would be the POV character. That way, he would be able to show T'Challa from a different perspective.
All of the focus of Christopher Priest's run is on T'Challa and his supporting characters. Ross is simply the viewpoint character — the comic relief. The story isn't actually about him. It's about T'Challa.
edited 17th May '15 6:08:27 PM by alliterator

I though Silk was Mayday Parker.