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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33826: May 12th 2015 at 5:00:23 PM

I don't see any proof that scene takes an hour.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33827: May 12th 2015 at 5:00:42 PM

I think the movie could've benefited from extensions here and there totaling 15-20 minutes' worth, but if all the cut scenes were just exposition as opposed to meaningful interactions and the like, then I'm not so sure I'm as excited for the full version.

At any rate, I don't think he meant to say the whole hour consisted of just Infinity Stones talk and the Thor subplot. There probably were some good development scenes and maybe something to make the Hulk/Widow subplot less jarring left on the cutting floor.

edited 12th May '15 5:02:04 PM by AlleyOop

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33828: May 12th 2015 at 5:00:57 PM

(Now, if Chris Claremont got a chance to direct a movie...)

I want to see someone do one of his trademarked 'entire speech in the process of one jump' things.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#33829: May 12th 2015 at 5:13:29 PM

You guys do know that editing is usually just chipping away at individual scenes until you've got each one down to an acceptable length, right? An extended cut is going to be, like, an extra minute of Tony talking Bruce into Ultron here, lengthening the existing Natasha/Bruce stuff a bit...usually only one or two entire scenes just up and vanish from a film.

The Thor stuff is likely going to be the biggest bricks to be put back in place, but it'll be, like, a half-hour, tops. The rest of that hour is coming from sequences that are maybe a minute long each and largely fit inside what we already saw.

That's why it's the only readdition that's mentioned in news pieces. It's hard to get folks hyped for the rest of it.

edited 12th May '15 5:14:10 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33830: May 12th 2015 at 5:18:55 PM

[up]I'm hyped for the rest of it, because it means that the film might get a chance to breath. I liked it fine, but I can't help but feel that, for what we got, the 75% rating on RT is pretty darn accurate. If it paced itself better and expanded on it's scenes just a bit more, it might have gotten a good 85%, if not higher. The Extended Edition might just be the Ao U we should've gotten in the first place, and I can't wait to nab it when it comes out.

edited 12th May '15 5:26:53 PM by kkhohoho

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#33831: May 12th 2015 at 5:25:08 PM

Oh, me too! But it's the sort of thing where I can understand why a news site might omit it.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#33832: May 12th 2015 at 5:27:51 PM

I above all wants to know...is there a scene in which Tony interacts with the Twins? Or one with Steve and the Twins? What is missing from the farm scenes? How did Steve get back to the tower from Asia without a jet? Was there more to the conversation between Black Widow and Ultron?

edited 12th May '15 5:28:29 PM by Swanpride

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#33833: May 12th 2015 at 5:37:07 PM

The first one is one of my issues with the movie - for all that they say in one scene the the twins have an enmity with Stark and Scarlet Witch talks about knowing his faults and making him suffer, besides a single snarky comment Quicksilver makes in a scene between Tony and Ultron the twins and Stark ultimately get no real face time with each other.

edited 12th May '15 5:37:32 PM by KnownUnknown

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#33834: May 12th 2015 at 6:17:15 PM

Just got back from seeing Age of Ultron. It was flawed, but fun. Thought the Hulk/Widow "controversy" was hilariously overblown.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#33835: May 12th 2015 at 6:18:47 PM

Same here. A scene where Tony claims he found himself in the same situation as them, staring at one of his own bombs being used again him, would have gone a long way towards clearing their resentment. And maybe something where he leaves the team but invites them to stay a part of it.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#33836: May 12th 2015 at 6:21:49 PM

[up]Isn't Ultron his own bomb being used against him? Or... actually wasn't that the plot of one of the Iron Man movies? Using Stark tech against the Stark?

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#33837: May 12th 2015 at 6:26:19 PM

First movie. The terrorists that kidnapped him were using Stark weapons.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#33838: May 12th 2015 at 6:26:38 PM

[up] [up]Both the first and the second movies...

[up] Oh, I'm talking about the arc reactor.

edited 12th May '15 6:27:07 PM by yellowturtle

Crow: There's a plot?
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#33839: May 12th 2015 at 6:35:08 PM

Yup, the terrorist attack in the first one. Staring at a bomb with the Stark name on it, just like them.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#33840: May 12th 2015 at 6:39:30 PM

He even had a moment where he just watched the bomb, terrified that it might go off, before it did.

Now that I think about it, Stane is probably more responsible for their parents' death than Tony is if I'm reading the situation in their homeland correctly.

edited 12th May '15 6:41:06 PM by KnownUnknown

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#33841: May 12th 2015 at 6:59:43 PM

The moral of the story is: "If you're an arms dealer for profit, don't paint names on bombs or one day evil speedsters and witches will come after you. Don't make fun of nerds either, that will also go badly."

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#33844: May 12th 2015 at 7:16:32 PM

Mirroring Tony and the twins' experience is a good idea - I hope they did that in the cut scenes.

Going back to the funeral scene for Civil War, maybe it'll be like the Kobayashi Miru from Wrath of Khan - they filmed that scene because it was leaked that Spock would die in the movie, so that people would think that Spock's "death" was just a training exercise in the beginning of the film, so they would be surprised when he died for real at the end. Maybe here they decided that since some people are expecting Cap to die in this film, they film a funeral scene (which gets reported), then have it be Peggy's, so that people don't see Cap's death coming later on.

Oh God! Natural light!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#33845: May 12th 2015 at 7:27:40 PM

[up][up][up]Indeed... With our memorization of the Evil Overlord List, WE'LL BE... I was going to say invincible but that would violate rule 24. Bad idea.

edited 12th May '15 7:27:49 PM by Tuckerscreator

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33846: May 12th 2015 at 7:35:17 PM

We'll be more likely to survive!

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#33847: May 12th 2015 at 7:41:31 PM

The more I see the trailer for Ant-Man, the more certain I am that the guy in the Yellowjacket suit is going to be a Disc-One Final Boss.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#33848: May 12th 2015 at 7:57:00 PM

Marvel is looking at Ava Du Vernay to helm either Black Panther or Captain Marvel.
yeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssss

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#33849: May 12th 2015 at 8:15:14 PM

Really hope she takes it.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33850: May 12th 2015 at 8:28:24 PM

Ava DuVernay as in Selma? Nice! She's really shown her directing chops with Scandal and then Selma.

http://mcuexchange.com/10-directors-for-blackpanther/

Also found this interesting article about other black directors who could possibly helm Black Panther, and I see that John Ridley is on there. Doing something for the MCU is definitely a great boost in terms of visibility, assuming Executive Meddling doesn't drive them out.


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