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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#33551: May 11th 2015 at 3:22:50 PM

[up]Well, I am still busy taking apart this movie. For all its faults, one thing is sure, none of the other Marvel movies ever made me to think that intensively about it. I wish I had a transcript so that I could take all the lines of Ultron and pick them apart. And then there are all those allusions. Between the references to Pinocchio, Frankenstein and the Bible, there are a lot of additional meanings to everything. Even the music Bruce listens to has a meaning, considering that it is Bellini.

edited 11th May '15 3:24:38 PM by Swanpride

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33552: May 11th 2015 at 3:26:06 PM

Alternatively the funeral could be for the casualties of whatever event causes the government to get on the Avengers' case in the first place.

I believe that was called Age of Ultron.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33553: May 11th 2015 at 3:33:37 PM

[up] Or so most people were predicting, but the official press release Jossed that and mentions it's another later event that finally breaks the camel's back.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#33554: May 11th 2015 at 3:35:49 PM

[up][up] From my interpretation of the synopsis of Civil War, the events of Age of Ultron might get the ball rolling on whatever the MCU equivalent of the registration act is, but it's another incident before the governments of the world decide that something has to be done RIGHT NOW. This would explain why there's a roughly year-long gap between Age of Ultron and Civil War.

edited 11th May '15 3:36:21 PM by Falrinn

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33555: May 11th 2015 at 3:36:26 PM

Seriously? You'd think Hulk and Ultron's plot would kind of make people go "Oh shit, we need to have some kind of oversight". Do they need to actively nuke...Oh fuck, they're gonna nuke a country aren't they?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#33556: May 11th 2015 at 3:42:15 PM

Close. In the actual Civil War comic, the Superhuman Registration Act comes about due to a fight between the New Warriors and Nitro where Nitro explodes and kills a bunch of schoolchildren in Stamford.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33557: May 11th 2015 at 3:42:23 PM

[up][up]If nothing else, it'd be better justification for the act than the destruction of one small town by a supervillain. Just one of the many problems with the original Civil War.

[up] ...Well played, sir; well played.[nja]

edited 11th May '15 3:43:16 PM by kkhohoho

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33558: May 11th 2015 at 3:44:30 PM

[up][up]I knew the comic's reason for the trainwreck. I'm referring to what the films will have to do for the events of Age of Ultron to not be enough.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#33559: May 11th 2015 at 3:45:42 PM

Note that Nitro was the same supervillain who made Captain Mar-Vell get cancer years earlier.

The new New Warriors really sucked compared to the original team and book(which might actually make a good movie or TV series).

edited 11th May '15 3:53:57 PM by LordofLore

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#33560: May 11th 2015 at 3:49:20 PM

[up]x5

It could be a case where the world initially decided that with Ultron destroyed the immediate crises was over and that an ideal solution could be carefully crafted over an extended period of time. The incident in Civil War might be minor when compared with what went down in Age of Ultron, but it's enough to get the world to decide that they can't wait any longer and rush through an imperfect solution that Steve Rodgers hates and believes will lead to an even greater problem down the road. Tony Stark on the other hand believes that the new regulations are a necessary to prevent another Ultron.

edited 11th May '15 3:49:57 PM by Falrinn

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#33561: May 11th 2015 at 3:50:40 PM

I think stopping Tony Stark from being Tony Stark is the best way to prevent another Ultron.

Like his father before him, he has a bad case of Mike Nelson, Destroyer of Worlds.

edited 11th May '15 3:52:27 PM by Hodor2

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33562: May 11th 2015 at 3:51:46 PM

Geez, Nitro is just the worst, isn't he?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#33563: May 11th 2015 at 3:53:09 PM

Even worse: Nitro was actually jacked up on Mutant Growth Hormone to increase his powers, which he was given to by one of the executives from Damage Control. Because, for some reason, they wanted more business and giving an out of control supervillain even more damage inducing powers is a good idea?

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#33564: May 11th 2015 at 3:53:34 PM

[up][up][up]

Yeah, I agree with you.

edited 11th May '15 3:53:42 PM by Galadriel

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33565: May 11th 2015 at 3:55:29 PM

[up][up] Wow that's dumb.

Civil War gets dumber the more I hear about it.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#33566: May 11th 2015 at 5:23:08 PM

Because it helps market the character ahead of time. Now when kids are watching trailers for Captain Marvel in theaters, they can wave their not-hard-earned Captain Marvel toys in front of their parents apathetic faces and say, ' IT'S CAPTAIN MARVEL I LOVE CAPTAIN MARVEL I WANNA SEE CAPTAIN MARVEL CAPTAIN MARVELS AWESOME CAPTAIN MARVEL CAPTAIN MARVEL CAPTAIN MARV—!!!', and after the now furious parent hurls the toy straight at the theater screen out of sheer rage and possibly damaging it slightly, they'll cave in, and will be even more likely to go see Captain Marvel than they were before. It's awareness-increasing advertising, basically.

They're slowly building up the character's profile outside of comics, but I don't think we're gonna see a significant push quite yet. Her film debut is still three years away, after all.

They might have made that figurine based off the earlier plans to include her in Age of Ultron.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33567: May 11th 2015 at 5:26:47 PM

Introduce her to Avengers Assemble, jerks.

And the twins.

Probably won't redeem it but maybe it'll make it more palpable. And maybe there will be more character types than "jerk", "dumb jerk" and "snarky jerk" (an exaggeration but after several episodes with Ant-Man I still have no idea about who he is as a character.)

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#33568: May 11th 2015 at 5:57:00 PM

That show has a whole other set of problems. I do find it so bizarre though of the potential MCU characters they could have added, they chose Ant-Man and not the Vison or the either of the Maxmimoff twins.

They did thankfully put Captain Marvel in that Disney Infinity game, as well as that Marvel LIVE stage show they did last year. So it seems like they're trying to build up at least some brand awareness for the character.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33569: May 11th 2015 at 6:07:58 PM

The show is 90% problems and 10% false hope.

Welp, off to go watch the new episode!

edited 11th May '15 6:08:39 PM by Bocaj

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#33570: May 11th 2015 at 6:09:42 PM

Man. I really need to track down a bootleg of Marvel Live or something.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#33572: May 11th 2015 at 6:44:33 PM

Oh my goooooooood!

edited 11th May '15 6:44:39 PM by Mukora

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#33573: May 11th 2015 at 6:58:27 PM

At first I thought Cyclops was wearing some kind of weird hat, but then I realized it's just his visor.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33574: May 11th 2015 at 7:03:05 PM

That doesn't look as bad as I thought it was going to be.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#33575: May 11th 2015 at 7:05:35 PM

Y'know, I never realized how upset I am that MCU Hawkeye doesn't wear the purple sunglasses.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

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