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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Vision's parents: Ultron, Doctor Cho, Bruce, Tony, and Thor.
Father's Day is going to be complicated, even considering one of his dads is dead.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersVision was a weird combination of a lot of things: the Vibranium cells with Dr. Cho's regenerating tech, the Mind Stone (with whatever intelligence was already there), JARVIS and the actual transfer was powered by Thor's Hammer. I know some theorize that considering Powers as Programs and Sufficiently Advanced Magic, something from the Asgardian magic in Mjolnir might have also transferred over.
The constant technobabble makes things hard to decipher, the AOU page also says in multiple places that Ultron's final body was made of Vibranium, when best I could remember the Vibranium Techno Babble was actually only used for the floating island and the Vision body. All of the Ultron robots were only made of relatively normal materials, probably the same stuff as the Iron Legion. If any Alpha Ultron body was made of Vibranium, it went down almost as easily as the others.
And what exactly Vision is as a person is also unsure. Ultron seemed to be a download of the intelligence within the Mind Stone mixed with Tony's prior attempts at the Ultron program. JARVIS seems to be the AI foundation mixed with the actual existing intelligence within the Mind Stone, and as mentioned maybe some Asgardian subroutines.
edited 11th May '15 11:34:04 AM by KJMackley
Whedon wanted to use Ultron (who by his account is his favorite villain) but they probably felt an obligation to connect the movie to both the original Avengers as well as set up the Infinity War.
edited 11th May '15 12:35:31 PM by comicwriter
I thought you meant the cartoon for a second and I gaped vacantly.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersBy and large it's a good thing to have a Meta Origin or Magnetic Plot Device to tap into. The Infinity Stones have now been responsible or at least involved with half the MCU movies now, and their properties are just undefined enough to mix up into any plotline you would like to. Relying too much on a bunch of random accidents will only make the plots even more convoluted.
Now that I think about it, if the X-Men were part of the MCU you could easily explain the Phoenix Force as connected to one of the stones.
Welp. Don't actually think it's for Cap though, but still. Interesting.
Might not be. Cap getting shot is what people generally think of when they think Civil War and funerals, but Bill Foster's death about midway through the story is what actually escalated the conflict from an especially violent game of Cat-and-Mouse to an actual war.
edited 11th May '15 2:57:38 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.![]()
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The whole movie is about evolution. You basically just have to transfer everything the characters say about this to the MCU and the movie basically says "The Avengers world you know is doomed, but something else, maybe superior is just waiting for you. But enjoy the current team as long as you can."
edited 11th May '15 3:14:26 PM by Swanpride
Well, that's Death of the Author and Applicability for you.
edited 11th May '15 3:15:47 PM by VeryMelon

Although the question is do we want Tony to have created a homicidal AI without alien intervention?
Dude already pretty much fucks up everything he's involved in with the MCU. Do we want to lay that on him too?
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