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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
MetaFour AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN from A Place (Old Master)
AXTE INCAL AXTUCE MUN
#33477: May 11th 2015 at 6:03:16 AM

Through editing and juxtaposition, it's possible for robots to emote without any movement whatsoever.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#33478: May 11th 2015 at 6:05:26 AM

Lord of Lore's Top Ten Characters He Wants To Show Up In The MCU Not Counting FF or Mutants:

  • 10. Adam Warlock/Magus
  • 9. Starhawk
  • 8. Jennifer Walters
  • 7. Jessica Drew
  • 6. Katherine Bishop
  • 5. Heather Douglas
  • 4. Phyla-Vell
  • 3. Kang
  • 2. Richard Rider
  • 1. Kid or Teen Loki

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#33479: May 11th 2015 at 6:08:54 AM

[up][up][up][up]Yeah, I know. But let's face it, the high prolific Avengers are all already in the movies or get their own TV-show. I was looking for characters they can add to pre-existing franchises, not for ones they can use to carry a movie - at least not yet. If someone had me asked years ago what I think about a Black Widow movie my answer would have been "problematic, the character is a little bit obscure", now I am absolutely sure that a movie with her as main character would not only work but can be a box office success.

We are now in Phase 3, in which we get a new set of Avengers. I suspect that Marvel will stick to what they did so far. They will pay attention which ones of those characters resonates with the audience and then give those sequels. But what happens then? Will they do to the "next generation" in the hope that the Avenger-name will be enough of a draw for the audience?

edited 11th May '15 6:09:14 AM by Swanpride

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33480: May 11th 2015 at 8:28:17 AM

At this point the Marvel brand practically prints money so if the MCU is going to address its diversity problem then by all means it should dig through its more obscure properties to find some. They wouldn't have much of an excuse not to, considering GOTG was a smash hit and Ant Man is probably going to do well, and those are themselves fairly obscure.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#33481: May 11th 2015 at 8:33:53 AM

Remember how Marvel and Disney said there would be more Black Widow toys? About that...

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#33482: May 11th 2015 at 8:39:49 AM

Dammit, you're killing me here, Marvel!

"We're home, Chewie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33483: May 11th 2015 at 8:42:36 AM

I thought Storm was married to T'Chala

He had the marriage annulled because she was a dick about the Avengers vs X-Men thing or because he was a dick about it but basically someone was being a jerk and T'Challa reacted by ragequitting the relationship.

She still ended up being the person he spent his last hours with when he thought the world was ending though.

@Avengers Academy: The MCU is sort of in a good place to actually do an adaptation of that with the new Avengers facility and focus on new members. But I don't know how you'd do the 'troubled kids at risk of becoming supervillians' thing. There's a lot of context for Avengers Academy in the comics and it doesn't have to be beat-by-beat adapted but I wonder what they'd do instead.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#33484: May 11th 2015 at 8:46:45 AM

[up][up][up]I remember reading somewhere that the guys who launch toylines consider that only boys are interested in action figures, and only in those representing male characters (hence why so many superheros cartoons end up with a nearly all-male cast). Girls must probably be interested only in dolls representing princesses, I guess, unless it's simply that any action figure of a female character is a doll, and thus, not worthy of the attention of a boy.

edited 11th May '15 8:46:55 AM by C105

Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#33486: May 11th 2015 at 8:51:03 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]God dammit! Apparently you can have an Ironman on a motorcycle(because that makes sense) but not a Black Widow. What the hell?

[up][up][up]I propose both Ororo and T'Challa were being jerks in that AvX thing. Mostly because everyone were being jerks in that thing (Namor and Wolverine the jerkiest of them all).

As for AA. The fact the main group are dangerous/troubled kids is important. Of course things would change as the comic context is vastly different to how the MCU is right now, but this aspect I think is too important. It could be as simple as just saying these particular kids have too dangerous powers and/or troubling personalities, which warrant them being on a special group by themselves.

edited 11th May '15 8:52:56 AM by Heatth

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33487: May 11th 2015 at 9:04:00 AM

[up]Oh, that's not the worst of it. Apparently, not only do some people think female Superhero toys can't sell, but Marcel's own CEO thinks female Superhero movies can't sell either.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#33488: May 11th 2015 at 9:07:39 AM

Can we all agree to each buy, like, fifty tickets to Captain Marvel just to try to prove him wrong?

"We're home, Chewie."
TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#33489: May 11th 2015 at 9:12:34 AM

Ugh. It doesn't really say much for me (I see all the hero movies as soon as possible within my schedule) but I am definitely seeing Captain Marvel (and Wonder Woman) and encouraging all those who listen to do the same. Even disregarding the (very important) part of supporting female-led movies, she's just damn awesome.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#33490: May 11th 2015 at 9:20:10 AM

Wow. So let me get this straight, Black Widow doesn't get her damn motorcyle scene reenacting toy, but Ultron does??? HE'S THE GODDAMN VILLAIN. Why the hell would be Ultron be dropping down from the Quinjet like Black Widow does?????

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#33491: May 11th 2015 at 9:22:30 AM

Oh, I certainly won't miss out on any female lead Comic book movies. Or Agent Carter (especially not Agent Carter, I am still ridiculous happy that there will be a second season). Or Aka Jessica Jones.

You know what is kind of funny? How much emphasis DC puts on the Joker in their marketing of suicide Squat even though a lot of fans are reluctant to embrace a new one after Heath Ledger. What they all DO love though, is Harley Quinn and the actress they picked for her. And yet DC does very little to use that for their advantage. In their place I would have Harley Quinn plastered over everything, not the controversial Joker.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33492: May 11th 2015 at 9:25:02 AM

Marketers are dumb.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#33493: May 11th 2015 at 9:26:31 AM

Errrr, we don't even have a poster for that movie yet. Harley is front and center in all the set photos while Joker has only shown up in pieces released due to his anniversary.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33494: May 11th 2015 at 9:27:07 AM

Everything Suicide Squad thing I've been seeing is their version of Harley with on-set shots. I've hardly seen anything Joker related since his reveal.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#33495: May 11th 2015 at 9:27:20 AM

Yup. Someone joked and said "Gosh what will they do when Captain Marvel comes out? Cut out the middleman and just not make any merchandise?"

edited 11th May '15 9:27:33 AM by comicwriter

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#33496: May 11th 2015 at 9:28:57 AM

All the Captain Marvel merchandise will just be action figures of Tony Stark wearing the Captain Marvel outfit over the Iron Man suit.

"We're home, Chewie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33497: May 11th 2015 at 9:29:00 AM

But I need to make all the Captain Marvels fight each other.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#33498: May 11th 2015 at 9:29:38 AM

[up][up][up][up]Yeah, but the one "single promo shot" is of the Joker and they made a big deal about the actor dying his hair.

On a different note, Age of Ultron did well over the second weekend, too. Not as good as The Avengers did back then, but better than anyone else. I wonder if it will eventually settle down below the Avengers, or if it will manage to stay steady longer and make more money nevertheless. I guess it will make a huge jump this week because it opens in China tomorrow.

edited 11th May '15 9:31:07 AM by Swanpride

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#33500: May 11th 2015 at 9:33:54 AM

Excellent. Now to obtain a Shazam, a Mar-vell, and a Monica and have them form the Megazord.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

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