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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33402: May 10th 2015 at 7:02:19 PM

Off the top of my head: Danielle Moonstar, Cecilia Reyes, Forge, Karma, Elixir, Gateway, Sunfire, Silver Samurai, Yukio (Storm's gf), Darwin, Xorn (maybe). For the record I'm not a huge fan of the term POC for the same reason I'm not a fan of the way the term "white" tends to be used, but YMMV.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#33403: May 10th 2015 at 7:05:19 PM

I'll admit it's a bit broad but, in situations like these, it beats writing out every possible ethnic minority.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#33404: May 10th 2015 at 7:07:59 PM

There's a Marvel character named Sunfire? Does that get confusing during crossovers?

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33405: May 10th 2015 at 7:11:32 PM

Getting the rights back to many of their prominent nonwhite characters is the only major advantage of the X-men in the MCU in my opinion. Their origin is pretty incompatible with the history of the universe and Inhumans are a good enough substitute.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#33406: May 10th 2015 at 7:25:05 PM

Couldn't they just significantly alter the X-men's origins in such a way that they fit with the MCU while maintaining the important themes and characterisation?

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33407: May 10th 2015 at 7:27:04 PM

Yukio (Storm's gf)

Storm's gay/bi now?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33408: May 10th 2015 at 7:28:27 PM

[up][up]They could but I think anything they do would wind up being close enough to the Inhumans that there isn't much point in keeping them separate groups. There's just no way to explain why things like the Hulk and the Avengers were so shocking to the world if you've had people with powers running around fighting each other for decades.

Edit: I thought Storm was married to T'Chala.

edited 10th May '15 7:29:41 PM by Kostya

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#33409: May 10th 2015 at 7:31:55 PM

Could they just not make them separate groups? Like, if they grab the rights, could they just say the mutants are Inhumans, or even keep the X-Men as an established group but as a group of Inhumans instead of X-Men and move the timeframe?

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33410: May 10th 2015 at 7:36:39 PM

That's what I'm saying they should do. Inhumans are already an established concept in this universe. Since the traditional mutant origin doesn't work they could just make them a subset of Inhumans.

edited 10th May '15 7:37:28 PM by Kostya

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#33411: May 10th 2015 at 7:41:17 PM

"Inhumans" is a way cooler name than "mutants" anyway.

EDIT: Wait, I just noticed that Wikipedia doesn't list the upcoming Fantastic Four movie in this list. Am I wrong in assuming it's part of the MCU, or is that just an error on Wikipedia's part?

edited 10th May '15 7:44:48 PM by Zarek

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33412: May 10th 2015 at 7:45:15 PM

I've always seen "inhuman" as an insult.

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#33413: May 10th 2015 at 7:47:09 PM

[up][up]Fantastic Four is in no way part of the MCU. It and X-Men remain completely unaffiliated.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33414: May 10th 2015 at 7:47:30 PM

[up]x7

Never openly stated or confirmed, but Storm and Yukio's relationship was heavily implied to be romantic similar to Mystique and Destiny's (which was).

edited 10th May '15 7:49:04 PM by AlleyOop

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#33415: May 10th 2015 at 7:48:43 PM

I wonder how much longer it will be until they wedge Ghost Rider into the MCU. And if then, what it'll be as, a movie or a Netflix show?

Netflix show might be the safer route since Nic Cage had to have the audacity to have 2 movies with the guy...both of which turned out less than spectacular. tongue

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#33416: May 10th 2015 at 7:51:05 PM

[up][up][up]Really? Dang it, here I was thinking they'd gotten the rights back or somethin'.

Well, I'll just cross that off my list of MCU movies with non-white protagonists....Black Panther can't come soon enough...

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33417: May 10th 2015 at 7:52:27 PM

Why can't these new acquisitions be characters in others movies/shows? I see no reason to follow the likes of Punisher or Ghost Rider around, but having them show up from time to time would be neat.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#33418: May 10th 2015 at 7:58:32 PM

There's a Marvel character named Sunfire? Does that get confusing during crossovers?
For the longest time I thought Spider Man and His Amazing Friends was made by the same people who made Teen Titans for that very reason, so probably.

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#33419: May 10th 2015 at 8:00:53 PM

Ohhhh, was that Sunfire? Dude, I remember that show now! I saw it, like, twice on Boomerang or something when I was a kid and it just hasn't crossed my mind until now. It was Spider-Man, Sunfire, and like, a silvery metal dude, right?

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Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#33420: May 10th 2015 at 8:02:55 PM

Nope. Spider-Man, Firestar, and Iceman.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33421: May 10th 2015 at 8:05:02 PM

There's too many fire people.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#33422: May 10th 2015 at 8:05:25 PM

Wow, Firestar is even more sue-able than Sunfire.

And yeah, Iceman. I think my brain crossed wires and mixed him together with the Silver Surfer.

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zsax Since: Mar, 2015
#33423: May 10th 2015 at 8:06:01 PM

[up]x4 Actually that was Firestar, a female mutant. Sunfire is Shiro Yoshida a japanese male mutant, he is related to Wolverine's enemy the Silver Samurai. And we also have Sunspot, a brazilian guy... who is also a mutant.

Confusing, isn't it?

edited 10th May '15 8:06:58 PM by zsax

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33424: May 10th 2015 at 8:07:25 PM

There's also Pyro, the Johnny Storm Torch, the original Torch, Toro, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33425: May 10th 2015 at 8:08:13 PM

And then there's Pyro. [nja]

edited 10th May '15 8:10:41 PM by GethKnight


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