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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#33376: May 10th 2015 at 2:52:13 PM

Ok, I just saw Age of Ultron with my dad. I'm still gathering my thoughts on it, so I'll post about it later.

Suffice to say, though, I think I liked it more than he did.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#33377: May 10th 2015 at 3:27:33 PM

Why exactly is there the assumption that Spider-man will become an Avenger? We only know that he is part of the MCU. Marvel has a lot of options. They can make him one, but he can also be "on retainer" so to speak and letting him become a permanent part of the group later....and eventually making him the leader, when Cap is long gone.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#33378: May 10th 2015 at 3:52:11 PM

You know, I was thinking. Should Marvel Studios reclaim all of its properties from Sony, Universal, and Fox, would we perhaps see a reboot of the MCU after Infinity War is all said and done?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33379: May 10th 2015 at 3:53:06 PM

[up][up]Mostly because of the comics and the fact that he's historically been Marvel's flagship superhero, so they'd jump at the opportunity to squeeze him in there (even though as a street-level hero it really wouldn't make sense for him to be an Avenger in Infinity War).

On an unrelated note, wild mass guess are white people doing martial arts really considered a form of cultural appropriation? I've seen that accusation made towards Daredevil, and I'm not an expert on that kind of thing but as long as they're not doing bad caricatures of us as a result I don't think there's anything wrong with it. So far it sounds to me as silly as accusing someone of anti-Semitism for learning Krav Maga.

edited 10th May '15 3:56:17 PM by AlleyOop

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#33380: May 10th 2015 at 3:53:47 PM

A universe wide reboot would probably come after the MCU films have become period pieces and there are new heroes to introduce as part of the foundation.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33381: May 10th 2015 at 4:03:00 PM

I'd like it if the MCU never reboots and deals with the consequences of these films. There's no reason to reboot every ten years or so.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33382: May 10th 2015 at 4:10:15 PM

I think rebooting would be silly unless the MCU dies out and they're willing to wait 20 years to try and start things up. It's not just a single film series like most other comic book movies. It's an entire franchise with multiple interconnected series. Recreating the universe would be a monumental undertaking and if the original died out due to lack of interest they have no guarantee the reboot will sustain itself.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#33383: May 10th 2015 at 4:14:09 PM

I assumed, from the way people have been talking about it, that Infinity War would basically be the end of the MCU.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33384: May 10th 2015 at 4:21:43 PM

Supposedly they have films planned for up to the 2020's, but it would be wisest for them to wind down a little after Infinity War, or else risk blowing out the brand.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33385: May 10th 2015 at 4:24:04 PM

That was before Inhumans was moved to be after Infinity War part 2.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#33386: May 10th 2015 at 4:26:43 PM

Infinity is the end of phase 3. It also happens to be the movie at which point a lot of actor's contracts are fulfilled, though everybody expects a "changing of the guards" so to speak at this point. But there will be more movies after this (if the MCU stays successful, but I don't have any doubt about this), and Feige once mentioned something about 5 phases.

There won't be a reboot anytime soon. We will spend some time in this universe with new characters and new stories. And when it ends, it ends, I don't see them trying a reboot anytime soon.

And honestly, I don't think that it would work. It would be like rebooting The Godfather, or like the redo of Psycho.

edited 10th May '15 4:29:20 PM by Swanpride

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#33387: May 10th 2015 at 4:28:11 PM

I think just one reboot would suffice, just to have key players who've been missing due to legal issues incorporated into events (eg. Wolverine and Namor being at large during WWII ; mass panic over mutants in the 70's, Galactus being an ever looming and talked-about threat among the intergalactic community, etc.). Think Kurt Busiek's Marvels but as an entire series of films and without Phil as the viewpoint.

edited 10th May '15 4:32:18 PM by nervmeister

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#33388: May 10th 2015 at 4:30:05 PM

[up]x5 Infinity War will probably be the conclusion of the Thanos/Infinity Stone story arc. But they have plans that go well beyond it. Plus once Spider-man was integrated into the schedule, the Inhumans movie ended up getting bumped to after Infinity War Part 2, so Infinity War isn't even the end of Phase 3.

Which is interesting because in the comics Inhumanity, a global mass super-empowering event involving activation the latent superpowers of all Inhuman descendants, happened as a direct result of the comic version of Infinity War. That could mean that Infinity War will bring a major shift in tone in the MCU since superpowers could become relatively commonplace (going from something like one in ten million to one in a thousand).

edited 10th May '15 4:31:07 PM by Falrinn

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#33389: May 10th 2015 at 4:30:41 PM

[up][up]If Marvel ever gets their properties back (which won't happen anytime soon either), they won't reboot, they will just tie them into the universe already there.

edited 10th May '15 4:30:53 PM by Swanpride

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#33390: May 10th 2015 at 4:35:51 PM

The MCU currently has a rough outline that goes all the way to 2028. Given each phase is roughly 3 or 4 years that means they probably have plans going through phase 5. I think they should plan on ending it there.

edited 10th May '15 4:36:13 PM by Kostya

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#33391: May 10th 2015 at 4:37:28 PM

[up]So if Wolverine shows up down the road and reminisces with Cap over the "good ol' days" (with some quick exposition or flashback thrown in), you're not going to be rolling your eyes?

If mutants become public knowledge in...........2019 and 1960's-style race riots start erupting, that won't make you and a load of Marvel fans go "Wait, whut'?"

edited 10th May '15 5:05:13 PM by nervmeister

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#33392: May 10th 2015 at 4:48:06 PM

They could have it that while Rogers was frozen, Logan was storming Normandy.

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#33393: May 10th 2015 at 4:56:38 PM

WWII was huge and Wolverine is Canadian. There are countless American soldiers who fought in WWII that Cap would never have met. It's not impossible they fought in the same war and just never crossed paths.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#33394: May 10th 2015 at 5:01:32 PM

[up] Plus Rodgers, when he was fighting at least, was dealing exclusively with special forces missions against HYDRA. If Logan was part of a more conventional force, they never would of crossed paths.

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#33395: May 10th 2015 at 5:16:22 PM

[up]I suppose that could work. Though the lack of Wolvie's history with the Howling Commandos would still miff some fans.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#33397: May 10th 2015 at 5:43:03 PM

[up]Personally, I all but hate Wolverine. In fact, thanks for reminding me why I'm not exactly desperate to see him inducted into the MCU (He wouldnt be too glaring of an omission from the team, right? waii). Still, I at least respect him enough as a fleshed out character to want his backstory not to get butchered in an attempt to shoehorn him into the current continuity.

edited 10th May '15 5:58:19 PM by nervmeister

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#33398: May 10th 2015 at 6:03:44 PM

I like X-Men, but I don't think they and the MCU should really mix because of how nonsensical the double between mutants and other metahumans in the Marvel universe is. The most the MCU would have to gain from getting the X-Men license back is the ability to reuse some of the less directly involved characters like the Shiar and maybe Wolverine and All in the Manual references like Dadneto.

edited 10th May '15 6:11:09 PM by AlleyOop

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#33399: May 10th 2015 at 6:17:23 PM

You'd also get, y'know, the vast majority of Marvel's female and POC heroes. I feel like that's a definite upside.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#33400: May 10th 2015 at 6:43:57 PM

Really? It may be just because I only ever watched X-Men Evolution and a bit of the original animated series, but the only POC I remember are Storm and Spyke. (Unless you count me thinking Nightcrawler was Spanish.)

Granted, having Rogue, and Kitty Pride, and Jean Grey would be nice.

edited 10th May '15 6:44:33 PM by Mukora

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