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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Oh, don't worry, I get what you mean. I am totally into the child version of Matt. I love this character. But I have trouble to root for the adult version for some reason. I think the only character I really love from this show is Claire. But I haven't given up yet. Sometimes it takes time for characters to click with me.
Okay, fine. I'm talking about Batman.
There have been a few times where my roommate and I were like, "This show is a way better Batman."
That, very decisively, is one of the reasons. It really feels like it's knuckling down and exploring the problems inherent in vigilantism. Not just the typical "Should I kill?" "Resounding no!" "Okay." conflict, but how it impacts the vigilante's personal life and health, whether or not it accomplishes anything, etc. As a superhero Necessary Weasel, it's rare to see vigilantism put under that microscope. It's generally accepted that Hero Man is entirely justified when he puts on a mask to fight crime, and only good can come of it..
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
Except in that case, Matt hadn't intended to kill Nobu from the get-go, and only did so as a last desperate resort at the very last minute, because otherwise, he was going to die. Whereas with Kingpin, Matt started that night out with the full intention of just ending him; even if he didn't actually succeed in doing so, there's a difference there.
Quick second to go back to Daredevil being Catholic. Considering the only prominent Catholic characters I know of on TV are Daredevil and Detective Stabler, and they're both a bit willing to do enhanced interrogation (Stabler more punchy than knifey), not very progressive I don't think.
He still killed a man. Nobu was the first life he has ever taken, after spending his entire career up to this point refusing to cross that line. There should be a response. Instead, he goes right on insisting he's not a killer.
I think it's because the thing with Foggy happened immediately after. Matt never had time to dwell on what he'd just done. Beaten to shit as he was, he might not even realize he killed him.
I might be wrong, it might come up later; I haven't finished the series yet.
edited 9th May '15 8:09:16 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Question: where do Jessica and Luke work out of in the comics?
edited 9th May '15 8:13:57 AM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!Depends on the point in their lives.
They lived in Avengers Tower when Luke was on the Avengers with Spider-Man(Peter, MJ and Aunt May all lived in the Tower also) before Civil War for example.
Jessica moved all over the US when working for people who wanted her to check out things outside NYC(her origin and the Purple Man are only revealed in the last story arc of the book btw but I think that story took place in NYC).
edited 9th May '15 8:21:35 AM by LordofLore
Actually I'm fairly certain he didn't intend to kill Nobu. The way he tosses the stick hints he was aiming at Nobu, and by stroke of luck the thing went too high and struck a lamp, setting Nobu on fire. Alternatively he was aiming at the lamp, but his purpose was to kill the light of the enviroment so he could fight in the dark (giving him an advantage), not setting Nobu ablaze.
At least that's the way I saw it. He doesn't react to Nobu's death because he doesn't see it as being his fault. It's a bit like Goblin impaling himself when he fights Spider-Man. Theoretically Spidey is responsible because by getting himself out of the way, he put Goblin in the sight of fire.
Also, real quick, there are only two Catholic superheroes in the history of comics, and they're Nightcrawler and Daredevil. He's also Irish-american.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."... I've just discovered that what I thought was a Spanish accent when I watched X Men Evolution as a kid, was actually meant to be German.
Wow.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
The one where Cyclops is actually a giant balding obese man with one giant eye, Angel's actually a divine being sent from on on high, and Storm is actually not from Africa?
edited 9th May '15 9:36:28 AM by kkhohoho
At least that's the way I saw it. He doesn't react to Nobu's death because he doesn't see it as being his fault. It's a bit like Goblin impaling himself when he fights Spider-Man. Theoretically Spidey is responsible because by getting himself out of the way, he put Goblin in the sight of fire.
Also, real quick, there are only two Catholic superheroes in the history of comics, and they're Nightcrawler and Daredevil. He's also Irish-american.
Matt's a lawyer, though. He knows that manslaughter is still killing someone. Less severe than murder, but still a kill.
In the Goblin example, the Goblin launched the attack that killed the Goblin; Spidey is only culpable of avoiding it. Here, it was Murdock's attack that killed Nobu, whether he intended it to be lethal or not.
edited 9th May '15 10:37:13 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Some info on how 616!Wanda and Pietro are no longer mutants or connected to Magneto.
Thought I should post this here also since the original article about them not being Magneto's kids were posted here a while back and so the circle could be complete.
edited 9th May '15 10:43:27 AM by LordofLore
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That's the law, sure, but he might see it differently from a moral perspective. He gave a whole speech about separating morality from the law in the third episode - hell, he separates them himself every night.
edited 9th May '15 10:41:56 AM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!Ignoring things that are unpleasant isn't a moral perspective, it's a justification. In the course of using violence to achieve his ends, Matt's use of violence ended a life. Whether or not he ever acknowledges that, it is what it is.
The only explanation for the complete failure to address it that I can think of, other than Matt hypocritically making excuses for it, is that he was so beaten to shit that night that he might only barely even remember what happened. He might not even know he killed Nobu.
edited 9th May '15 10:46:40 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Can the Maximoff's thing be that their parentage gets shaken up every couple years?
I think I would actually really like that.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

I'm expressing why I, personally, disliked the show, and how I hope I'll be able to like the rest of the Netflix shows. If people are allowed to do the same for Iron Man 2 or Thor, I think that should be allowed.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."