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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Considering that Jessica and Luke actually showed up in Daredevil around the time Alias was going, I think Foggy showing up in TV!Alias is fair game.
A crossover is indeed a possibility, especially considering how Luke Cage will be making his debut on Jessica Jones.
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They've more or less confirmed
they plan to have Claire from Daredevil appear in other shows.
You know, if you don't like Daredevil, that's fine, but I'm pretty darn sure the other shows will likely be similar to Daredevil in terms of its' general tone; if you didn't like Daredevil, I can't see how you'd like the other Netflix shows. (Especially since in Jessica Jones, our heroine will have a year-long bout of mind-control and mind-fuckery from a complete psychopath as a part of her backstory. To me, that's darker than anything Daredevil ever came up with.)
@Santa: You're right, but a lot of my dislike of Daredevil also comes from me finding Matt Murdock insuferably boring.
Jessica Jones and Luke Cage might not have that problem.
Like, if the protagonist of Daredevil had been Foggy? Or Claire? I probably would have watched it.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."I can understand how someone might find Matt a bit banal. Hell, he's never been my favorite in the comics and I've rarely deliberately read a book with him in it. But the Netflix series goes a long way towards puncturing the character's ego. Unlike with certain heroes on the other side of the fence, Matt can't duck the question of whether he's doing the right things for the right reasons. Hell, he can't even keep from asking those things of himself. It's a nice contrast to the way other dark-and-gritty heroes are often given at best the "I did what I had to do" way out and at worst unquestioned moral absolutism.
Okay, fine. I'm talking about Batman.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.It's less about the narrative presenting him as always right (which I'm glad it doesn't) and more about him just... not being a character type I really care about. "Troubled white dude with a traumatic past who has to do shitty things for The Greater Good" is so fucking boring.
If I wanted that, I'd just, I dunno, play Final Fantasy 7. Though, Cloud might not be white? He has blond hair, but anime stuff is always weird about that.
edited 9th May '15 2:19:35 AM by Mukora
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."Working for SOLDIER, kind of. I dunno, it's been a while since I played that game.
See, I don't mind anti-heroes in and of themselves. It's just the very specific type of anti-hero that Matt Murdock, and Batman and Cloud Strife are that really make me roll my eyes.
Though, if that character type is placed in a narrative that's otherwise lighthearted (like, I dunno, Yuri Lowell? From Tales Of Vesperia), or they're not a white dude, or they aren't the character that most of the story focuses on, I can probably drum up a bit of interest.
edited 9th May '15 2:27:20 AM by Mukora
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."Hey, far be it from me to argue that white male anti-heroes aren't the oldest, floppiest hat at this point. I totally see where you're coming from.
(Oh, and in before the "he's Catholic that makes him underrepresented" crowd.)
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Why wouldn't I want folks to point out that he's underrepresented because he's blind? I mean, that's an argument I can actually get behind. And actually I do think it's a sufficiently different perspective that I'd argue for it falling under your "if they were a minority I'd be interested" point.
Nah, there was a pretty persistent line of argument before the show came out that having an overtly Catholic superhero was super-progressive, and that moreover the Catholicism angle necessitated him being white for some reason. I am making a joke at that argument's expense, even though it's largely disappeared, purely because I'm feeling kinda petty I guess? I dunno. I regret doing it now. It was gratuitous. And not very funny.
edited 9th May '15 2:33:43 AM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
All fiction is subjective so I'm not going to fault you for not liking Daredevil. What I will say is that frontloading the Netflix series was due to Daredevil being the most well known of the 4 street-level heroes they were doing, and they also were going to keep him as close to his comics portrayal as possible. That way more casual fans would get involved with Daredevil, and then be more open to less known properties.
I don't think you are going to need to watch Daredevil to understand what's happening in Jessica Jones. The occasional reference might go over your head, but I think anything vital to the plot will at least be given a cursory explanation within the series.
I'd give a counter argument, but the show could have at least MENTIONED Matt was of Irish decent if they had any interest in not whitewashing him.
Bleh, talking about Murdock's racial presentation in Daredevil always gives me a headache; because it always leads to horrifically ironic explorations to how inaccurate a term like 'white' is, considering it describes a demographic who's skintones tend to be darker than that of the Irish. Caucasian is even WORSE, being a word poorly designed to describe a third of the entire population of earth, named after a series of mountains in Georgia, and commonly used to describe a very small demographic.
edited 9th May '15 3:33:31 AM by Whowho
