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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#32951: May 7th 2015 at 11:01:23 AM

Wow, Civil War isn't messing around. This might as well be an Avengers film.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#32952: May 7th 2015 at 11:02:00 AM

So...I am most likely late with this, but Marvel revealed the synopsis and cast for Civil War. To summon up:

1. The current Avengers team is present, plus Tony and Clint are there (in short every superpowered being in the movies minus Thor and Bruce)

2. The cast from "The Winter Soldier" (Bucky, Sharon, Crossbones) are back, too.

3. Black Panther gets introduced.

4. A really unexpected addition is General Ross.

5. It sounds like at least the start will be close to what happened in the comics.

6. They haven't revealed what Martin Freeman's role will be. I wonder why.

edited 7th May '15 11:04:03 AM by Swanpride

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#32953: May 7th 2015 at 11:03:26 AM

I think that movie will have to be split, because I think putting all that in just 150 minutes or so might get a bit too faced and messy.

Besides, more money for the studio.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#32954: May 7th 2015 at 11:04:32 AM

[up]See it as test run for Infinity War.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#32955: May 7th 2015 at 11:05:05 AM

Ant-Man is there, as is apparently is Giant-Man identity. Hmm. Giant-Man was killed by the Pro-Regs in Civil War (not Lang or Pym, Bill Foster). It was viewed by Sharon Carter as the Moral Event Horizon that led her from Pro-Reg to Anti-Reg. Wonder if they'll keep that here...

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#32956: May 7th 2015 at 11:05:20 AM

Oh wait, you said Civil War, not Infinity War.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32957: May 7th 2015 at 11:05:27 AM

@Swan Pride: Maybe Ross becomes the Red Hulk? Wishful thinking, I know...

But yeah, the more I hear about it, the more and more this seems like an Avengers film with 'Captain America' slapped on the cover than just a Captain America film. Makes me wonder if the Critics will slap the film in the face for having 'too many characters', seeing as that's one of the most common complaints against Ao U you see going around.

edited 7th May '15 11:11:00 AM by kkhohoho

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#32958: May 7th 2015 at 11:06:06 AM

Noooooooooo

Old cranky Pym nooooooo

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32959: May 7th 2015 at 11:06:52 AM

They're really going to have to resort to a Cast Herd to get fit all the characters in without making the film too crowded.

So far I'm seeing it break down as:

  • Cap's team (Falcon, Widow, Hawkeye, etc.)
  • Tony's team (Rhodey, Vision, Ant-Man, Maria Hill, etc.)
  • HYDRA (Zemo, Crossbones, maybe Bucky is back under their thrall)
  • Government (Ross, Sharon, maybe the female WSC member)
  • T'Challa and his entourage (Ross)

I don't expect either Ross (Note: I never noticed they had the same last name until now, maybe they'll Hand Wave Sharon and Peggy as similarly unrelated) to have significant screentime.

edited 7th May '15 11:08:11 AM by AlleyOop

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#32960: May 7th 2015 at 11:08:36 AM

[up][up][up]Depends on how they'll handle this. Let's say the incident is related to Steve finding Bucky. Never mind that this time around it won't be some random team which messes up, but the Avengers themselves, lead by Steve (and it is entirely possible that we'll barely get to see them after this).

edited 7th May '15 11:08:49 AM by Swanpride

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#32961: May 7th 2015 at 11:08:48 AM

[up] Oh God, that's a lot of characters.

I mean, I don't mind having tons of characters in a TV series; there usually more than enough time to cover them. But in a movie...I rather have select few core characters of 3~4.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32962: May 7th 2015 at 11:14:07 AM

[up][up][up]I'm the opposite. I expect Ross to have a decent role but I feel most of the Avengers will likely be there to fill out fight sequences. I don't think the individual heroes will have huge roles.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#32963: May 7th 2015 at 11:14:47 AM

A deleted scene from The Avengers 2.

Well. Not really. tongue

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#32964: May 7th 2015 at 11:20:16 AM

I hope the Winter Soldier's leitmotif makes a return in Civil War.

[up] I hate that gif. I also that Spidey's in this movie at all.

[down] [lol]

edited 7th May '15 11:25:36 AM by higherbrainpattern

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32965: May 7th 2015 at 11:21:48 AM

An ear-piercing screech when Sam sees Bucky in line at Starbucks.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32966: May 7th 2015 at 11:29:06 AM

Since he's no longer working for HYDRA, most likely he'll have a new theme that might incorporate some of the old riffs.

I'm really looking forward to the music for Civil War. I thought Jackman's work on The Winter Soldier was one of the most memorable soundtracks out of all the MCU films, and funnily enough that OST gives me mild vibes from another composer I like, Hiroyuki Sawano (Aldnoah Zero specifically).

edited 7th May '15 11:32:28 AM by AlleyOop

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32967: May 7th 2015 at 11:32:32 AM

Now that we have both Hawkeye and Ant-Man confirmed, I need this scene.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#32968: May 7th 2015 at 11:39:33 AM

[up][up]They use Jackman again? Yea!!! I adore his work since Wreck-it-Ralph.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32969: May 7th 2015 at 11:47:21 AM

[up]

Yep. His work on X Men First Class was also really fantastic as well.

edited 7th May '15 11:47:55 AM by AlleyOop

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#32970: May 7th 2015 at 11:48:02 AM

So Civil War is going to be as long as Return Of The King, right?

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#32971: May 7th 2015 at 11:49:08 AM

That Everett Ross sounds like a really cool character and perfect for Freeman. This might be a stupid question, but I was kind of wondering if there would be a need to address his (not) being related to Thunderbolt Ross.

RE the Natasha discussion, I do see the points made by Tobias Drake and others. Still think the Natasha/Banner romance is kind of random though, especially because in The Avengers, Banner doesn't like her and she's terrified of the Hulk (granted, who wouldn't be?)

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#32972: May 7th 2015 at 11:53:11 AM

If Civil War doesn't have a Downey Jr/Rudd ad lib off I will be disappointed.

And also Tony should programme an AI called W.A.S.P into Ant-Man's suit or something. Unless Evangeline Lilly turns out to be Wasp, of course.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#32973: May 7th 2015 at 11:59:36 AM

My guess is that by the end of the Ant-Man movie, Lilly will be Wasp, and will wear a variation of the Yellowjacket armor.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32974: May 7th 2015 at 12:02:49 PM

The Joblo report, which so far seems to be mostly accurate, claimed they set up Hope to become the Wasp in a future film, so I guess that's what will happen. There's no Ant-Man sequel in Phase 3 so it'll likely happen in either Civil War or Infinity War.

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#32975: May 7th 2015 at 12:03:04 PM

That's what I'm thinking too. She'll modify the Yellowjacket suit and become Wasp.


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