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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I'm finally gonna watch AOU in a few hours.
I'll let you all know how it turns out.
I tell ya, it is getting taxing to read most of the stuff here without getting spoiled.
And about Martin Freeman having a mystery role in Civil War, I really doubt it'd be Captain Britain as some people suggested. If that was true, he'd have to get ripped in...whatever days are left before they start filming for CW. (They probably started already.)
If anything, chances are he'll be Everett K. Ross, who is, IIRC, an expert on most things Wakanda and envoy for Black Panther, who's showing up in Civil War.
edited 7th May '15 9:43:54 AM by TargetmasterJoe
The funny thing is someone wrote up an elaborate "leaked" outline that was up on the web last night that is pretty thoroughly Jossed by this. All that hard work for nothing!
Latino Review is apparently already saying he's Everett K. Ross.
But I completely expected this and love it. Because Everett K. Ross is awesome. His first appearance had his pantless, trying to shoot a rat in his bathroom. Later, he gets some new pants...from the Devil. And they turn out to be cursed pants.
Heh. He's not really an expert in Wakanda. He's just the state department employee who got "saddled" with being the liaison to T'Challa.
edited 7th May '15 9:50:01 AM by alliterator
It sounds like what Civil War should have been about. Superhero registration rather than Superhuman registration.
Due to the thoroughly inconsistent portrayals of the SHRA courtesy of Quesada's insistence that everyone just make it up however they feel it suits the story they want to tell, at its best, the SHRA was about licensing people who volunteer to be superheroes, giving them badges and actual legal authority as well as an organized hierarchy, while letting the rest go about their business. A Superhero Registration Act in which the likes of Hawkeye or Black Widow would need to be registered to operate as independent peacekeepers, but, let's say, Joe the Telekinetic Barber wouldn't.
At its worst, the SHRA was about conscripting anyone with superpowers to be unwilling soldiers, and locking up everyone who refuses to comply. A Superhuman Registration Act where Badass Normals like Hawkeye or Black Widow would have no need to sign anything, but Joe the Telekinetic Barber better have his papers in order and be ready to leave his barbershop to become Private Joe the Telekinetic Decapitator, or it's off to the Negative Zone with him.
You pretty much knew this was going to horribly inconsistent from the moment they had S.H.I.E.L.D., a U.N. peacekeeping force, spending all its efforts to enforce American laws under orders from a handful of Senators.
This sounds much closer to that first depiction.
edited 7th May '15 9:59:00 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.The MCU simply just doesn't have enough metahumans for mandatory registration to make sense in this film. Although this is something
that Feige himself personally Jossed for the most part, and quite a long time ago, so I'm not sure why people continue to insist that it's still a thing.
Plus, registration for any person with superhuman abilities is already a thing. It's called "the Index" and it was part of SHIELD.
Oh, but I love that "Thunderbolt" Ross is back, still played by William Hurt. They aren't forgetting about the Incredible Hulk movie.
edited 7th May '15 10:04:16 AM by alliterator
It's also not nearly as much of a big deal without secret identities, because before various writers started adding all sorts of things to make the Registration side look worse, the main problem was less, "I don't want a record that Great Balls of Fire has the ability to shoot plasma beams from his crotch," and more "I don't want a record that Great Balls of Fire is actually Jack Black, gross-out comedy actor!"
Then all the other stuff started being added and the conflict evolved from being about secret identities to being about evil government conscription in the more negative portrayals. Meanwhile, the more positive portrayals were sitting pretty with stories about how awesome it is to be licensed superheroes and how the SHRA is totally fair and none of that conscription stuff exists.
edited 7th May '15 10:09:31 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I never thought that Natasha and Clint were a couple. I think The Avengers were very clear about the fact that she owed him for sparing her life and that they are "siblings in arms".
Neither did I feel any vibe between her and Tony (that was clearly just her undercover mission and Tony is pretty much in love with Pepper...I doubt that he has slept with any other woman since the arc reactor) or her and Steve. That was clearly labelled as friendship and worked beautifully so.
The only time I actually did see something in the direction "romance" was in the interaction between her and Falcon. Those two were clearly flirting with each other, in a very playful way.
Which is why I was so taken aback with Natasha/Bruce. There was noting of this kind between them in The Avengers. The only thing which was there was fear and mistrust. I have no idea what Whedon saw there, but the only chemistry between those two was the one of two actors who are both really, really good in the job. Hell, Tony and Bruce have more romantic chemistry than those two (and I am not a slasher).
Some characters can never live it down and other characters luck out
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWere you there in the Frozen thread the day a Steve/Elsa Crack Ship spontaneously happened? Consensus was that Tony pranked him into going down the manhole from Enchanted. Thought it'd be funny to send a Human Popsicle to a world of ice.
I much rather see Else/Loki.
Also, an awesome/hilarious gif for those who have watched Gurren Lagann.
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Avengers 2 is the first time we've ever seen Nat outside a professional capacity. In Iron Man 2, she's playing the role of Tony Stark's personal assistant. In Avengers, she's on the job as an Agent for her entire screentime. In Winter Soldier, she's also on the job for her entire screentime; even when she and Steve go off the grid, she's still Agent Romanova and only falters in her professionalism once she finds out S.H.I.E.L.D. has been infiltrated by Hydra. We get the occasional glimpse of Casual Nat here and there, like her quiet moment with Clint in Avengers or her reflection on who she is in Winter Soldier, but they're few and far between.
Age of Ultron was the first time the audience actually got to see her let her hair down and just be Natasha instead of Agent Romanova or The Black Widow.
edited 7th May '15 10:51:36 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.

Yeah, that actually sounds much better than "We need to register all people with powers." Especially since they already have that with the Index on AOS.
So yeah, this is apparently Avengers 2.5. Because the entire New Avengers is on that list. Perhaps they will be cameos or perhaps not.
In any case, I totally fine with that.