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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32827: May 6th 2015 at 2:55:30 PM

Quicky Snarker

Edit: As far as that, I can assure you personally that its a hoax. People spreading false rumors and whatnot.

edited 6th May '15 2:56:10 PM by Bocaj

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32828: May 6th 2015 at 2:56:25 PM

Queen Skrull?

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#32829: May 6th 2015 at 2:56:57 PM

I wanna give Ultron a h-hug now.sad

I figured that the "AI in the Mind Stone" wasn't Thanos' doing, but a characteristic of the stone itself. That is, that the Mind Stone contains a complex but unstable personality within it that is similar enough to an AI to be replicated and which can dominate the minds of others at the wielder's will.

But the Vision was an alright guy. Or is that because the Vision is really Thor's hammer, Jarvis and the Mind Stone put together as opposed to Stark's programming and the Mindstone

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#32830: May 6th 2015 at 2:58:22 PM

Oh, it also adds a kind of sad facet to Ultron

He was kind of insane. The stone is telling him one thing and Stark's programming another and he kind of has to jump through some logical hoops to get his two directives to work together and make sense to him.

Kind of like HAL. "Tell the crew everything" "Don't tell them stuff"

"Guess if I kill them then I don't have to keep secrets! I'm smart."

[lol][lol][lol]

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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#32831: May 6th 2015 at 2:59:09 PM

I think it's because he's the Mind Gem and J.A.R.V.I.S., as opposed to Thanos's AI and Stark's programming. Whether Thanos created the AI or the Mind Gem did, the implication that it was doing Thanos's work when it completed Stark's peacekeeper AI is clear. Vision, however, has the pure Mind Gem itself and not the AI surrounding it.

edited 6th May '15 2:59:34 PM by TobiasDrake

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#32832: May 6th 2015 at 2:59:47 PM

I'm just imagining Thanos watching this all and going "DAMMIT NOT AGAIN."

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32833: May 6th 2015 at 3:01:49 PM

The MCU: the story about how you just can't find good help these days.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32834: May 6th 2015 at 3:04:59 PM

Loki and Ronan were gambles but surely you can trust your own evil murderbots!

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#32835: May 6th 2015 at 3:05:06 PM

Like Bocaj said, it also explains why Thanos gave Loki the Mind Gem in the first place, and adds credibility to the idea that Loki's behavior in the first Avengers film was influenced by it.

  • THE OTHER: Take this scepter and, with it, the power to enslave minds!
  • LOKI: Wicked cool! I can't wait to use this to achieve my goals! Wait, why would he give this to me? Isn't he at all concerned that I might turn it against him?
  • SCEPTER: Nah, he totally trusts you. You have all the power here.
  • LOKI: Awesome! ...wait, who said that? Did this thing just talk?
  • SCEPTER: No, I absolutely did not.
  • LOKI: Oh, that's a relief. For a second, I was worried it might be affecting my thoughts. Time to conquer Asgard!
  • SCEPTER: Earth.
  • LOKI: Time to conquer Earth!

edited 6th May '15 3:06:20 PM by TobiasDrake

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32836: May 6th 2015 at 3:06:33 PM

Pfft

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#32837: May 6th 2015 at 3:08:04 PM

But isn't vision filled with some of ultron's thoughts at the moment they started implanting J.A.R.V.I.S.?

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#32838: May 6th 2015 at 3:13:12 PM

Of course.

But which is better? The hero that is born good, or the hero that overcomes his innate evil?

Paraphrasing from Paarthunax here.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#32839: May 6th 2015 at 3:31:56 PM

LOKI: Awesome! ...wait, who said that? Did this thing just talk? / SCEPTER: No, I absolutely did not.

One day, I want to see a chat between Loki's scepter, Thor's hammer, and Steve's shield.

Beaver Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#32840: May 6th 2015 at 3:34:39 PM

[up]

And Iron Man's armor.

Is this a Jo Jo reference?
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32841: May 6th 2015 at 3:36:30 PM

oh no

oh noooooo

its never good when the armor starts talking on its own

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32842: May 6th 2015 at 3:39:00 PM

Remember that time when the Iron Man suit declared Tony its husbando?

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#32843: May 6th 2015 at 3:39:58 PM

Yeah, it's usually the other way around.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32844: May 6th 2015 at 3:43:39 PM

[up][up] It wanted Tony inside it

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#32845: May 6th 2015 at 3:48:27 PM

Damn, had Thanos' AI received an opportunity earlier, Thanos could have walked through the ashes of Earth can picked up three infinity gems (Mind Stone, Reality Stone, Space Stone) and all without the greater universe suspecting a thing. Meanwhile his squeeze gets seven billion gifts.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#32846: May 6th 2015 at 3:49:26 PM

The Jealous Iron Cockpit: I can make anyone Mighty.

Mew Mew: Only the Mighty may wield me.

Worst Dart Board Ever: Bitch please, I Am Mighty.

Mental Phallic Symbol: Y'all will be Mighty Mind Raped when I'm through with you. Also, Evil Mighty Robot Time.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#32848: May 6th 2015 at 3:56:36 PM

Cap's shield. Though my first thought was the dart board Hawkeye humblebragged with in AOU.

"We're home, Chewie."
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#32849: May 6th 2015 at 3:57:58 PM

Just use magnets. Probably make a great dartboard.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#32850: May 6th 2015 at 4:02:55 PM

Called it that because I've got a dart board based on Cap's Mighty Shield, but the actual shield would suck as one due to being made of Vibranium.

And now the joke is ruined. Yay.

I also thought of calling it a Billion Dollar Frisbee, if that works for you.


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