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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#32776: May 6th 2015 at 11:22:50 AM

@The article last page.

It didn't actually say Coulson was coming to the movies, it said that the Avengers would eventually find out he was alive, which is likely going to happen in AOS, not in the movies themselves.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32777: May 6th 2015 at 11:46:19 AM

[up][up]Yeah there's that. And it's not as though the movies haven't shown they're willing to completely change up or take liberties with certain aspects anyway.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#32778: May 6th 2015 at 11:57:21 AM

@Wackd,

Not the best thread for it but Raina have killed people. At last a few SHIELD scientists recently, but before that she was the a leader in a HYDRA subdivision. She got plenty blood on her hand.

Anyway, it is still possible she will turn it around at the finale. In fact, she is in a perfect position to do so. Everything she said would happen will happen and for the reasons she claimed. I wouldn't be surprised if she survived to become the next Afterlife leader by the end of the season.

edited 6th May '15 11:57:50 AM by Heatth

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32779: May 6th 2015 at 12:24:09 PM

In support of Ultron. Age of Ultron spoiler-ish.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#32780: May 6th 2015 at 12:50:14 PM

It was clearly TV Tropes that pushed him over the brink. He couldn't stand getting stuck in the site forever.

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#32781: May 6th 2015 at 12:57:48 PM

When I got out of the theater my impression was: Ultron deserved to win. The Avengers stole his perfectly legally obtained new body with his legally bought materials.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32782: May 6th 2015 at 12:59:22 PM

Was it really legally obtained since he gained it through blackmail and mind control?

edited 6th May '15 12:59:30 PM by comicwriter

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32783: May 6th 2015 at 12:59:29 PM

He sorta held a science lab hostage and stole a macguffin spear though

[up] Duress too, since he only paid for the vibranium after forcing Klau to hand it over.

edited 6th May '15 1:00:07 PM by Bocaj

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#32784: May 6th 2015 at 1:01:09 PM

He paid for the materials fair and digitally fraud square, also, he didn't hold the builder hostage, he used persuasion. Mind Control is such an ugly word.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32785: May 6th 2015 at 1:01:31 PM

There is nothing "legally obtained" about buying from a black market arms dealer. That vibranium legally belongs to the nation of Wakanda.

It's like buying a stolen car. Even if you paid for it, it still ain't your car.

edited 6th May '15 1:02:26 PM by TobiasDrake

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32786: May 6th 2015 at 1:10:50 PM

[up][up]He told her in no uncertain words if she didn't shut up and cooperate, he'd kill her employees.

Someone did a side by side of the AOU and Civil War costumes for those interested. They're essentially the same but it looks like they tried to simplify it a bit.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#32787: May 6th 2015 at 1:14:28 PM

[up] Looks like the only real change is a little less red.

Oh God! Natural light!
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#32788: May 6th 2015 at 1:18:03 PM

The waist stripes are a little thinner too. Overall, I like both.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#32789: May 6th 2015 at 1:19:15 PM

I also doubt Ultron got that money by legal means.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#32790: May 6th 2015 at 1:20:29 PM

Hey, he works hard for the money! So you better treat him right!

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#32791: May 6th 2015 at 1:31:25 PM

I was just being fascetious, although I did feel sad for ultron.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#32792: May 6th 2015 at 1:32:23 PM

...I was also being facetious. And (mis)quoting Donna Summer.

edited 6th May '15 1:32:31 PM by alliterator

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32793: May 6th 2015 at 1:33:15 PM

[up][up][up][up]Maybe he rented himself out for children's birthday parties.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32794: May 6th 2015 at 1:36:51 PM

I wasn't being facetious. I was having a Poe's Law moment.

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#32795: May 6th 2015 at 1:39:53 PM

Like I can get behind with Ultron leading the human race after a cataclysmic event, (I welcome our new robot overlord), but I wouldn't be okay with him causing the event himself. But still, he bought the material, and if we go all the way with that then The Vision is property of Black Panther and Thanos.

edited 6th May '15 1:40:04 PM by vandro

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32796: May 6th 2015 at 1:42:15 PM

Nah, just the Panther.

Thanos sent the Mind Gem to Earth embedded in a weapon he gave to his military leader. It's a spoil of war. It was S.H.I.E.L.D. property until S.H.I.E.L.D. ceased to exist as an entity, whereupon it was claimed by Hydra, then retaken by the Avengers - again, as a spoil of war.

Ultron stole it, but I think legally, it's Avengers property. That or it defaults to the Sokovian government, depending on whether or not the Avengers' authority to seize Hydra property is legitimate.

edited 6th May '15 1:46:00 PM by TobiasDrake

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#32797: May 6th 2015 at 1:42:38 PM

An interesting way to bring Ultron back, on the off chance they ever do (they won't), would be to have Ultron be hidden within Vision's mind in the same way J.A.R.V.I.S. hid himself within Ultron's.

It won't happen, but it's a doorway at least.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#32798: May 6th 2015 at 1:45:29 PM

I mean he could have also posted himself on the internet. All it takes is one person going "Oh, what is this link? A free download? Sweet" and suddenly it's Malware Ultron.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#32799: May 6th 2015 at 1:46:48 PM

Ultron uploads himself as a torrent for some obscure hentai game.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32800: May 6th 2015 at 1:47:39 PM

That explains Giffany.

edited 6th May '15 1:47:50 PM by TobiasDrake

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