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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#32751: May 6th 2015 at 10:01:42 AM

The show is needed to keep fans up to date on the Marvel Cinematic Universe when there isn't a movie or Netflix show out.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#32752: May 6th 2015 at 10:01:43 AM

I just feel that Coulson should have stayed dead and that this Inhuman plot will just be a "Oh, you don't know who So-and-So is? Go watch the show that you really never had to watch except to just see more of a small side character who has grown immensely in popularity."

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#32753: May 6th 2015 at 10:05:04 AM

I doubt any of the Inhuman stuff in Agents of SHIELD will have any bearing on the actual Inhumans movie. It's basically just there to be like "Okay, this stuff totally has been happening for a while" so when the movie comes out they can say that without bullshitting even though none of the previous movies really set it up.

I'd love if Skye gets a cameo, don't get me wrong, she's the best, but I'll understand if that doesn't happen.

I'll agree that they could have just gotten a different character to fill Coulson's role, though.

edited 6th May '15 10:05:27 AM by Mukora

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32754: May 6th 2015 at 10:09:26 AM

Looks like Cap's Civil War costume got rid of the red trim, which was probably my biggest issue with his AOU costume. His The First Avengers costume was the best due to its practical look, and his Director of SHIELD costume looks good all around, but this is probably the best out of his comics-authentic outfits.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32755: May 6th 2015 at 10:12:13 AM

Clearly they will get Fake Shemp versions of the Avengers to cameo in AOS to learn the truth.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#32756: May 6th 2015 at 10:17:04 AM

So, as someone who hasn't been watching Agents of SHIELD and doesn't know much about the comics, can someone explain this Inhumans stuff for me?

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#32757: May 6th 2015 at 10:17:36 AM

Note that the Inhumans movie is going to be centered around the royal family, while the Inhumans in the show are 1: Not royal, and 2: Completely unaware that there's anyone else. So it's going to be a background thing, and we might get a cameo or two if we're lucky. I suspect if nothing else we'll get a line like "SHIELD has been aware of Inhumans in general for some time. A few of them are actually agents."

[up] Short version: Descendants of Kree-modified humans. They're completely human until they get exposed to a mist from special crystals, at which point they develop a power and may undergo extreme body mutation (one guy is a teleporter with an Eyeless Face).

edited 6th May '15 10:19:17 AM by Discar

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#32758: May 6th 2015 at 10:21:07 AM

Basically, as it works in this continuity, the Kree (who you may know from GOTG) genetically modified a bunch of humans on Earth to basically be "sleeper agents" for them. Weapons, essentially.

These people are activated by something called the "Terrigen mists," which are located in ancient underground cities that the Kree built when they had an empire on Earth, I guess? When a person who has the Kree genetic modification is touched by the mists, they gain superpowers. Some people get cool stuff, like the ability to vibrate things at the molecular level, or a healing factor, and others get turned into human hedgehogs who can see the future, or lose their eyes and have to see through, I dunno, magic or something.

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#32759: May 6th 2015 at 10:23:54 AM

Adding to what the others have said, there are Inhuman settlements that exist in very remote locations in Asia. They're a secret society that has existed for millennia with minimal contact with non-Inhuman societies.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32760: May 6th 2015 at 10:25:49 AM

[up][up][up]From the sound of it the movie won't JUST be the royal family. This was the original logline floating around:

The Inhumans are aliens who were put on Earth as sleeper cell agents to eventually call back their race to take over the planet. Ultimately, the group of aliens fully assimilates and don’t want to cause war.

Feige's response was that it was "relatively fair" so it would sound like some of the more recent Inhumans will be involved.

edited 6th May '15 10:26:02 AM by comicwriter

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#32761: May 6th 2015 at 10:27:08 AM

[up][up][up] Quantum entanglement, I think

I am pleased to see that the Kree are still the biggest jerks in space. Those jerks.

edited 6th May '15 10:27:19 AM by Bocaj

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Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#32762: May 6th 2015 at 10:28:02 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Actually, the show did allude to other people not seem including other leadership. We can't say for sure, of course, but for all we know the Royals are just there in contact with the Inhumans of the show and just never make an appearance. At any rate, yeah, I doubt the show will be overly important to the movie. Probably just exist as background story, even if somewhat connected to the characters of the movie.

As for Couson, I don't mind him coming back much, but I think it was a good idea not have him in Age Of Ultron. Probably not a good idea to have him in any movie, in fact. His reunion with the Avengers could be an special or whatever. One of the shorts, maybe.

edited 6th May '15 10:28:39 AM by Heatth

Ithilgore Since: Jan, 2001
#32763: May 6th 2015 at 10:37:00 AM

They've made it pretty clear the Inhumans movie will focus on Atillan and the royal family, which sounds like it will be very self contained (hence why it's coming out after Infinity War part 2). So you won't need to have watched the TV show to understand it, but if you have it will be much better established.

edited 6th May '15 10:37:40 AM by Ithilgore

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#32764: May 6th 2015 at 10:46:21 AM

Who's Crystal going to be a love interest for since they offed Quicksilver and can't use the Fantastic Four?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32766: May 6th 2015 at 10:48:53 AM

That's why I think he's not actually going to stay dead. Ronan's also dead so there's that option torpedoed.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#32767: May 6th 2015 at 10:49:14 AM

[up][up][up]Ronan The Accuser! No, wait, that doesn't work either.

[up][nja]

edited 6th May '15 10:49:31 AM by Heatth

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32768: May 6th 2015 at 10:49:30 AM

@Ogodei: My memory's a bit hazy, but I think she came onto Vision at one point during the 90's, when she was on the Avengers. Maybe they could make her the third wheel in a love triangle?

edited 6th May '15 10:49:50 AM by kkhohoho

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32769: May 6th 2015 at 10:59:50 AM

Maybe she doesn't need to be a love interest?

She's basically the Avatar. She'll need to wait until the last minute of the movie to make out with someone anyway.

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#32770: May 6th 2015 at 11:02:14 AM

It's pretty strongly indicated that the Inhuman colony in the show answers to a hierarchy above them. On a few different occasions, the colony's leader talks as though she does not have complete authority in the colony, as though she answers to someone higher.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#32771: May 6th 2015 at 11:04:19 AM

I was suspicious that they never showed Pietro's grave, though the tributary naming of Hawkeye's child is supposed to stand in for that? Either way, they should be more clear when dealing with jaded comic fans who know that only Gwen Stacy stays dead.

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#32772: May 6th 2015 at 11:10:40 AM

People only stay dead if it makes Peter Parker sad.

Someone said that, but I can't remember who, so I'm going to take credit for it. I said that. Original quote, do not steal.

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#32773: May 6th 2015 at 11:11:10 AM

Man, I am super-miffed about what happened to Raina, you guys. Like yeah, okay, the HYDRA guys tend to get shot dead. But Ward gets to go into hiding, get a cute little romance arc, and then skip town again consequence-free. Hal gets his family back. Raina, though, she needed to be knocked down a peg! Have her get deformed, lock her up, spiral her into a self-pitying depression! Wait until she's at her lowest to give her her powers! Meanwhile, she's the only villain on the show who's had practically no autonomy. She was constantly under the thumb of people who were lying to her, manipulating her, putting a gun to her head. Every excuse Ward's given is one Raina actually has, and she's never even killed anyone! Meanwhile, a homicidal maniac and a deranged double-agent get basically everything they want. Why does she get the suckiest ending?

edited 6th May '15 11:11:46 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32774: May 6th 2015 at 11:11:14 AM

Can people come back to life if it makes him more sad?

[up] She has killed people though?

edited 6th May '15 11:11:55 AM by Bocaj

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#32775: May 6th 2015 at 11:15:58 AM

[up]x6 I'd probably say that unless we are dealing with a character whose story is so heavily intertwined with their love interest that it's impossible to excise the relationship from their story and be left with a recognizable character (which is extremely rare), they don't need to be in a relationship. Especially in the first Inhumans movie.

edited 6th May '15 11:16:32 AM by Falrinn


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