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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32726: May 6th 2015 at 7:01:26 AM

Yeah, that wasn't what happened. The shells were already lined up on the desk; we focused on them because one was wobbling from the momentum of Quicksilver speeding past it.

On that note, I want to give credit both to Ulysses Klaw for being amazingly cool in the face of super-powered assailants and a goddamn robot, and also to Ultron for being possibly the only fictional AI I have ever seen that could actually pass the Turing Test.

edited 6th May '15 7:02:59 AM by TobiasDrake

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#32727: May 6th 2015 at 7:03:48 AM

Quicksilver caught a few bullets. One from a cop in his shoulder and quite a few from a jet using his whole body.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#32728: May 6th 2015 at 7:05:02 AM

That scene with Klaw, I read as: Quicksilver took all of the bullets out of his gun and lined them up. Not fast enough to catch them out of the air.

edited 6th May '15 7:05:08 AM by alliterator

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#32729: May 6th 2015 at 7:06:42 AM

Generally speaking, Quicksilver seems to interact with objects at their actual velocity. We also see it when he grabbed the hammer; not being able to grab it out of its flight path is one thing, but once he touched it, it dragged him with it all the way to the end of its course.

With this in mind, it should be impossible for him to grab a bullet out of the air without the bullet piercing his skin as it would if it struck him normally. Him moving faster does not cause them to move slower. He can dodge them more easily, but can't counteract ballistic physics, if that makes sense?

edited 6th May '15 7:08:10 AM by TobiasDrake

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#32730: May 6th 2015 at 7:12:42 AM

IIRC wasn't Fox!Quicksilver able to move already fired bullets around and stuff like that? He seems way more powerful than the MCU one.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#32731: May 6th 2015 at 7:14:21 AM

He won't be doing a Days of Future Past anytime soon.

Would J.A.R.V.I.S. Be an AI or VI? I've always seen him as AI.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#32732: May 6th 2015 at 7:14:41 AM

[up][up][up]It does to me. His power doesn't really defy physics. He is fast, but he doesn't nullify momentum.

[up][up]Fox's Quicksilver was considerably faster, as far I could tell. And, actually, I don't think even he could catch bullets. He deflected them from their path instead.

[up]VI, I think. And I always seem him as such. He never seemed self aware to me.

edited 6th May '15 7:15:41 AM by Heatth

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32733: May 6th 2015 at 7:17:07 AM

Fox Quicksilver seems to be powered by the goddamn Speed Force. MCU Quicksilver is fast but I don't think he has quite as many Required Secondary Powers as Barry Allen.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#32734: May 6th 2015 at 7:17:15 AM

Yeah, and that was exactly the problem with Fox's Quicksilver. He is way too powerful.

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#32735: May 6th 2015 at 7:28:30 AM

With the speed at which, Fox!Quicksilver hit those Pentagon guards with plates/frying pans/their own fists they should be either in a coma or outright dead.

Its a fun, iconic scene but c'mon Quicksilver those guards were just doing their jobs.

[up] [up] If I recall, he moves so fast stopping time might as well be his mutant power.

edited 6th May '15 7:29:29 AM by PurpleDalek

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32736: May 6th 2015 at 7:32:14 AM

He's not that fast. You can see the bullets moving throughout the scene.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32737: May 6th 2015 at 7:34:18 AM

A look at Cap in Civil War. ...It's pretty much just his AOU costume with some very minor alterations.

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#32738: May 6th 2015 at 7:35:59 AM

Just thought, it would have been really funny if Quicksilver was a massive troll and moved all the bullets away from Xavier and Magneto and made them all hit Wolverine, knowing his Healing Factor would let him live.

Cue a pissed off Wolverine.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32739: May 6th 2015 at 7:38:49 AM

[up][up]How do you people pick up on these things? I can never tell when Cap's outfit changes.

Why do they do that anyway? Tony has the excuse that he builds improved armors when he's bored but Cap shouldn't have to change his uniform that much.

[up]Did he know about that yet? He just met these guys a few hours ago.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#32740: May 6th 2015 at 7:44:49 AM

I thought Logan had known Peter during the 70s.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#32741: May 6th 2015 at 7:47:03 AM

[up][up]Actually, Cap had a decent excuse for all movies so far. He needed a new outfit for Avengers, since the previous one was 70 years old. In Winter Soldier, he was working for SHIELD as a quasi-spy, so his outfit couldn't be too flashy. In Age of Ultron, he is back to super heroing, so an iconic flashy outfit was more appropriate again.

edited 6th May '15 7:47:13 AM by Heatth

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32742: May 6th 2015 at 7:47:48 AM

He didn't seem to know him. I got the impression they originally met later but Logan already knew about him because or time travel.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32743: May 6th 2015 at 8:03:10 AM

[up][up]Plus both his one from the Avengers and the one he stole from the Smithsonian got messed up, iirc.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#32744: May 6th 2015 at 8:53:47 AM

Well, my respect for Whedon rose.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#32745: May 6th 2015 at 9:10:07 AM

Son of Coul will return to the movies.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/05/agents-shield-age-ultron-crossover

At any point, did you lobby for the Avengers to find out that Coulson is alive?

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#32746: May 6th 2015 at 9:24:38 AM

[up][up] Similar in regards to Saarkisian. I may dislike her for her hunt/peck style of her work, but she does not let idiots scare her off, most of the time.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#32747: May 6th 2015 at 9:28:44 AM

[up][up] Thank fuck. I'm glad Joss leaving is already starting to pay off.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#32748: May 6th 2015 at 9:30:26 AM

I have not much of an opinion on her because finding an even relatively unbiased discussion on her is more or less impossible.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#32749: May 6th 2015 at 9:54:17 AM

I don't feel that Coulson is needed in the movies. Hell, I don't even think the show is necessary.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#32750: May 6th 2015 at 9:57:26 AM

The show is pretty entertaining, gives me something to watch on Tuesdays, has Ming-Na Wen in it...

It's pretty necessary for me, at least.

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