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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#32651: May 5th 2015 at 3:48:10 PM

Yeah it's deliberately not shown because it's not real, it's all in his imagination. He's treated fine but acts like a spoiled brat because he's not allowed to do whatever eh wants.

edited 5th May '15 3:48:18 PM by Silasw

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#32652: May 5th 2015 at 3:52:19 PM

In the first movie Odin treats him very fairly. And in the second he actually treats him quite well considering he's guilty of (in modern terms) high treason, murder, attempted genocide, participation in another attempted genocide and attempted fratricide. In any lawful court in the world, he'd be facing a death sentence.

Odin is being astoundingly merciful by letting him live.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#32653: May 5th 2015 at 3:58:48 PM

I often wonder if it's mostly people who are aware of the comics or the myths were Thor and Odin are bigger jerks.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#32654: May 5th 2015 at 4:01:02 PM

In the last battle against Surtur, in Thor: Ragnarok, Loki finally does die finally...

...but Thor cannot accept that, so he descends into Limbo and pulls him out. As a kid.

That's right: it's time for KID LOKI. And then Teen Loki! And then Loki, Agent of Asgard! Yeah, motherfuckers!

edited 5th May '15 4:01:18 PM by alliterator

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#32655: May 5th 2015 at 4:12:49 PM

[up][up][up] Apparently it was because Frigga interceded on Loki's behalf?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#32656: May 5th 2015 at 4:13:48 PM

I just wanna see Thor fight the Midgard Serpent.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32657: May 5th 2015 at 4:23:34 PM

I actively try to separate my opinion of characters themselves from their terrible fanbases, and I did like Loki in Thor 2 despite being indifferent to hating him in the previous two films. I do agree the character has outlasted his welcome though, and it's partly his fault that Thor 2 was so terrible, and unless Ragnarok pulls a miracle, Loki should die so the Asgardians in the MCU can be retired for the time being.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32658: May 5th 2015 at 4:26:19 PM

I liked the Dark World.

I don't get why everyone seems to hate it.

Clearly, you are all insane.tongue

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#32659: May 5th 2015 at 4:26:23 PM

Beta Ray Bill still needs to show up in a Thor standalone movie, though.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#32660: May 5th 2015 at 4:27:57 PM

Beta Ray Bill will probably show up in Guardians 2. And he'll have a Loki-type villain that hogs the spotlight.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#32661: May 5th 2015 at 4:28:01 PM

[up][up]How was Thor 2 being bad Loki's fault? He was the only thing I liked in that movie.

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#32662: May 5th 2015 at 4:28:43 PM

I liked Thor 2 well enough. Certainly more than the first.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32663: May 5th 2015 at 4:30:50 PM

[up][up] I feel the same way, but on a meta sense apparently the focus on Loki came at the expense of just about everything else about the film, especially the Dark Elves.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#32664: May 5th 2015 at 4:31:00 PM

I also liked Thor 2. I certainly remember more of it than I remember Thor.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#32665: May 5th 2015 at 4:32:03 PM

[up]x4 Because they hacked and slashed the shit out of that movie to cram in more Loki scenes to increase profits from wet panties.

edited 5th May '15 4:32:31 PM by SonOfSharknado

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#32666: May 5th 2015 at 4:32:10 PM

I also think Thor 2 is better than Thor 1.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32667: May 5th 2015 at 4:33:06 PM

Wet panty money is just good as creamed nerd boxers as far as Marvel is concerned.

And why wouldn't it be? Green is green is sorta rainbowish in the higher denominations.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#32668: May 5th 2015 at 4:34:02 PM

I really enjoyed Thor, though. I can't explain why, but I absolutely loved it.

edited 5th May '15 4:34:46 PM by higherbrainpattern

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#32670: May 5th 2015 at 4:38:51 PM

I too liked Thor 1.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#32671: May 5th 2015 at 4:39:00 PM

[up]x6

While the execution was spectacularly poor, there's nothing wrong with actively trying to please female fans in and of itself, nor Pandering to the Base in principle.

I also preferred Thor 1 on the whole, despite enjoying the Loki scenes in Thor 2 more than the best parts of Thor 1.

edited 5th May '15 4:51:32 PM by AlleyOop

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Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#32672: May 5th 2015 at 4:40:26 PM

I thought it was decent, though I liked the Asgard scenes more than the Earth scenes (oddly enough, I was more into the Earth scenes in the sequel).

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Absolutely no relation to NLK
#32673: May 5th 2015 at 4:41:57 PM

Wet panty money is just good as creamed nerd boxers

You know, this just might be the most succinct rebuttal to the "pandering" accusations you see towards most progressive media every day.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#32674: May 5th 2015 at 4:53:03 PM

Err...

Doesn't anyone want to talk about the possibility of having Tom Hardy as The flippin' Punisher?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#32675: May 5th 2015 at 4:58:28 PM

...THAT WOULD BE THE SICKEST.

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