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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#32626: May 5th 2015 at 2:41:21 PM

[up][up][up] Same.

Although such images are difficult to stop thinking about once they've been mentioned. Fortunately, I'm largely immune to this sort of Squick probably due to my carefully neutered existence leaving me little idea what coitus actually looks like (which, for the time being, is how I'd like to keep it).

And yes, that was a thing I just said.

edited 5th May '15 2:42:17 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#32627: May 5th 2015 at 2:44:04 PM

Can you do that nerve pinch thingy or is that just a myth?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#32628: May 5th 2015 at 2:44:13 PM

Guys.

Guys.

I've figured it out.

I know who Martin Freeman's gonna play.


Spider Man!

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#32629: May 5th 2015 at 2:46:07 PM

It wasn't you guys. Mostly. It was Tobias's more... serious interpretation.

And I'm not saying it's necessarily sexist, it's just gross to me.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#32630: May 5th 2015 at 2:46:25 PM

Isn't there like a Gopher Man that he would be better suited for?

[up] Fair enough.

edited 5th May '15 2:46:44 PM by Ninety

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32631: May 5th 2015 at 2:48:19 PM

The trick is not to actually think about it. Knowing what the consequences are, smile, nod, and go, "Yes, sex with the Hulk is a terrible idea, and Banner was absolutely correct in his insistence that this is not a thing he should ever do."

Because I promise you, Banner has thought about it enough for any of us.

edited 5th May '15 2:48:49 PM by TobiasDrake

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#32632: May 5th 2015 at 2:48:51 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] No, sadly I have to settle for a kidney jab.

That was directed at me, yes?

[up] And his sacrifice shall not be in vain.

edited 5th May '15 2:49:26 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#32635: May 5th 2015 at 3:04:29 PM

And lo did Google cry out as it received hundreds of new searches for "hulk penis"

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32636: May 5th 2015 at 3:06:54 PM

I agree that the scene in question was entirely tasteless.

Now, for Mukora's sake, let's change the subject to another topic. On the subject of things that are several feet tall, green, constantly throbbing with pent-up desire and ravenous need, who actually thinks Loki is going to be the main villain of Thor: Ragnarok, as opposed to being supplanted by a bigger villain such as Surtur?

edited 5th May '15 3:07:31 PM by TobiasDrake

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#32637: May 5th 2015 at 3:10:45 PM

I think he will be the villain, for stablish surtur in one movie in which he will be dealt swiftly is so Dark World as to not be worth doing, unless they want to use Space Horse Thor.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#32638: May 5th 2015 at 3:12:14 PM

Only if Thor bashes Loki's head in like a fucking watermelon.

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GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#32639: May 5th 2015 at 3:14:19 PM

Will Loki be getting snake venom in his eyes?

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#32640: May 5th 2015 at 3:17:05 PM

Only if Thor bashes Loki's head in like a fucking watermelon.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#32641: May 5th 2015 at 3:22:15 PM

Goddamn, Tobias.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#32642: May 5th 2015 at 3:24:58 PM

Only if Thor bashes Loki's head in like a fucking watermelon.

vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
Shop Owner
#32643: May 5th 2015 at 3:25:29 PM

Why the animosity?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#32644: May 5th 2015 at 3:27:06 PM

Every time "What if Loki shows up in X", I will always say "only if Loki dies" because I am sick of Loki and Loki fangirls. He needs to die, brutally and pathetically.

My various fanfics.
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#32645: May 5th 2015 at 3:28:23 PM

Loki is overrated as all hell.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#32646: May 5th 2015 at 3:29:28 PM

I feel like at this point the hate for Loki probably evens out the love for him.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#32647: May 5th 2015 at 3:30:08 PM

If we want to do a thing that's not just petty greivance, I can see Loki dying, for legit this time (thor can foot drub his corpse and everything), helping defend Asgard against Surtur or whatever Ragnarokandrollish thing is transpiring.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#32648: May 5th 2015 at 3:31:24 PM

Rewatching the Thor films, does anyone get the feeling that the mistreatment Loki supposedly gets is more tell not show? Even cell looked pretty comfy and was only in a mess after he wrecked it

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#32649: May 5th 2015 at 3:34:20 PM

It's not even Tell. It's a transparent falsehood.

Loki had every chance in the world to accel, but is too busy being a petty, jealous, and bitter shithead to notice. The only thing he's a victim of is a Grass is Greener mindset towards his brother.

edited 5th May '15 3:35:00 PM by TobiasDrake

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#32650: May 5th 2015 at 3:45:20 PM

The only real indication that we ever get that Loki was mistreated was him constantly talking about it while in the throes of a massive nervous breakdown. Thor remembers their childhood very differently, though admittedly he is the golden boy of the family. That said, I could definitely buy Odin being a bad dad in general (to both of them, honestly, it's just that only Loki noticed it) - he clearly didn't quite know what he wanted with Loki, and I could see how it would have hurt their relationship.

On the other hand, the only indication we ever get that he was rejected by Asgard as a whole (beyond a deleted scene, which admittedly the movie probably ought to have found a way to include somehow), is how The Warriors Three minus Fandral and largely Sif, pretty much snap to distrusting him the moment they find out he's not on board with Thor not deserving everything he got at the beginning of the movie. Everyone else seemed to like him just fine.

Loki basically convinced himself he needed manipulation and subversion to be accepted by Asgardians, even before finding out he was a Frost Giant. This created a self-fulfilling prophecy that's largely his own fault.

edited 5th May '15 3:46:14 PM by KnownUnknown


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