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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Someone asked what the most extreme thing Ultron has survived by jumping bodies or into computers in the comics was. The answer is a
◊ supernova exploding in his face.
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edited 5th May '15 12:25:39 PM by LordofLore
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Yeah exactly. If he gets caught, he still has one in reserve. If not, he kills everybody and goes back to planning to wreck shit.
So...... should somebody yell Vision dision doo?
Or is that a bit too silly?
Makes sense. Then again, I'd expect them to just melt it all down. Much safer option.
edited 5th May '15 12:27:40 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!That's basically what happened to the Ultron involved in the first Secret Wars
Forever liveblogging the AvengersUnfortunately, Vision was onto him. He would have gotten away with it if it weren't for that meddling synthezoid.
Not only was it a pretty good plan, it was exactly the same plan as what he did on Klaw's tanker.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Probably shouldn't have thrown in that line about, paraphrased,
- STARK: You're not going anywhere.
- ULTRON: I'm already there. Don't worry, you'll learn.
edited 5th May '15 12:40:14 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Eh.
I disagree with the idea that it doesn't matter because it's about a fictional character in a fictional situation. I mean, Renner himself even talked about how he disliked how he was portrayed in the first Avengers movie, so obviously it matters. Same thing with how many people care about fictional characters in every media. Like, that's part of the joy or watching/reading/etc. characters, you care about them.
I also disagree with the "sleeping with four out of the six Avengers thing." It wasn't really implied to me that she slept with any of them. Obviously Cap is a Virgin, Tony was dying/with Pepper, Hawkeye has a wife, and Bruce can't raise his heartbeat - only Hawkeye has a chance there and one person isn't that bad. And hell. Hawkeye and her go way back, she met Tony in 2010, and then she met Cap and Bruce in 2012 - that's not a slutty amount of people:year ratio so even if she slept with all four it's not slutty.
And then honestly I didn't find it funny. I saw the comment for the first time live and it didn't make me smile or chuckle.
But eh. I don't find it offensive or in poor taste. I didn't find it funny but I'm sure others did, I just disagree with Renner's comments after the fact.
There's no confirmation for why Joss left twitter aside from just being burned out.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThat was a surprisingly reasonable article from Polygon which tends to have the same problems Jezebel and Kotaku have. I'd disagree heavily with their evaluation of Tony Stark's promiscuity though. I always viewed it as a prominent character flaw and a trait that was used to draw attention to Tony's childishness, and that his moving to a monogamous relationship was a form of heavy character development.
Someone suggested Freeman might be Everett Ross
and that would actually be really kind of perfect. And actually make sense given the context of the story.
edited 5th May '15 1:24:52 PM by comicwriter
Or, alternately, his effortless shift to a committed romantic relationship with the most important female character in his life is symptomatic of Hollywood's general compulsive need for every movie protagonist to star in a monogamous Male-Female romance, regardless of its effect on the characters involved. See also: the Thor/Jane Romantic Plot Tumor.
Winter Soldier shattered a lot of expectations by depicting an entirely platonic relationship based on trust and respect between its male and female leads, and if the outcry to Age of Ultron is any indication, a lot of people still took it to mean that Cap and Widow totally hooked up despite a complete lack of development in that direction.
Of note: the ridiculous nature of Stark and Pepper hooking up was actually used as a punchline at the end of the first Iron Man.
edited 5th May '15 1:26:43 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.In fairness, the Tony/Pepper romance is very well done, by keeping it important but far from overwhelming. Thor/Jane is the problematic one.
...and people actually think Cap and Widow hooked up? Really? I can understand wanting them to (though I disagree), but people can't seriously believe it actually happened.
edited 5th May '15 1:28:20 PM by Discar
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.People will find any excuse to slam Whedon for not conforming to their headcanons. I've seen a fair share of Stucky fans accusing Whedon of bisexual erasure (and other more reasonable Stucky fans telling them to shut up) for not including Bucky in Steve's vision of Peggy. While I do think it was a bad choice on Whedon's part to not include Bucky in any form whatsoever for a number of reasons, I won't allow myself to be so blinded by Shipping Goggles that I consider Stucky outright canon nor will I use social justice as an excuse to blast people for not supporting my ship either.
edited 5th May '15 1:29:51 PM by AlleyOop
It's true that Tony/Pepper are engaging and well done, in large part due to the actors' remarkable onscreen chemistry.
It's still an intriguing commentary on the state of Hollywood that in the comics, Stark gave up the bottle at the culmination of a long and difficult struggle in one of his most iconic storylines, but kept the womanizing, while in the films, Stark converted to a straightforward monogamous relationship with almost no difficulty in adjusting his entire lifestyle, but kept the drink.
edited 5th May '15 1:32:21 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.

The quinjet thing isn't really dumb when you remember he already had an escaping body, as you pointed out.
By having his 'main' body do something big and distracting and also getting to discourage pursuit by hurting the Avengers was a pretty good plan.
Unfortunately, Vision was onto him. He would have gotten away with it if it weren't for that meddling synthezoid.
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