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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#32501: May 5th 2015 at 8:53:06 AM

Stark needs MORE lights! The more the merrier!

More people shooting at the Visible Iron Man means less people shooting at the Fleshy Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Cap!

edited 5th May '15 8:53:43 AM by TobiasDrake

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#32504: May 5th 2015 at 9:05:59 AM

[up]It was posted a few days ago.

As for the HH that might just be a company or product the art is meant for. Marvel loves it some endorsements.

edited 5th May '15 9:06:30 AM by comicwriter

Psychobabble6 from the spark of Westeros Since: May, 2011
#32505: May 5th 2015 at 9:08:57 AM

Cracked's more thorough view on the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Only two of those aren't overwhelmingly negative.

And if I claim to be a wise man, well, it surely means that I don't know.
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#32506: May 5th 2015 at 9:09:42 AM

Cracked has been getting click baity recently.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#32507: May 5th 2015 at 9:13:32 AM

Honestly, reading the stuff is a waste of time. Unless they suddenly got better it's just a collection of half-baked arguments in which some writer is ignoring all evidence to the contrary in order to push his own agenda.

Psychobabble6 from the spark of Westeros Since: May, 2011
#32508: May 5th 2015 at 9:15:10 AM

Usually for the sake of being contrary to get clicks.

I do like that second article, though. It's not angry ranting, just gentle mocking.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#32509: May 5th 2015 at 9:15:25 AM

By the way, I couldn't help but notice similarities between The Cradle and the Soulforge from The Dak World.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#32510: May 5th 2015 at 9:28:26 AM

The "% Sad truths You Learn Watching All The Marvel Films At Once" Article is actually a pretty good highlight of issues any sequential film storytelling will run into.

When you're unable to have bottle episodes, every event is going to be a catastrophe; the episodic nature means heroes and villains are often going to be reactionary rather than proactive, and yes, due to contracts, major characters in the narrative will just stop appearing.

Those criticism can apply to Pirates of The Caribbean, X-Men, Transformers, Indianna Jones and Fast and Furious I guess (I've not seen enough episodes of that franchise to comment really)

I mean, these aren't inherently bad things, but they will be easy habits to fall into Hollywood should be aware of if sequential storytelling is their next big thing for films.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#32511: May 5th 2015 at 9:30:03 AM

The point I was most interested in was how it'd be nice to see the Avengers or just the heroes in general doing more traditional rescuing or crime fighting instead of mostly specific threats aimed at or caused by them.

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#32512: May 5th 2015 at 9:34:08 AM

The shows help with that.

Most of the Avengers are big enough in scale and scope that regular crime-fighting is sort of beneath their pay grade. Like, if Thor, the God of Thunder swoops in to stop a bank robbery, this is an incredibly slow day for Thor; he would have to be amazingly bored.

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#32513: May 5th 2015 at 9:35:08 AM

[up][up]Isnt the point of superhero teams like the Avengers is to handle threats that no single hero can deal with on his/her own?

edited 5th May '15 9:35:46 AM by nervmeister

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#32514: May 5th 2015 at 9:36:34 AM

Yes. Does that include stopping bank robberies?

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#32515: May 5th 2015 at 9:39:12 AM

It really is just a matter of scope and scale. DareDevil fights crime. The Punisher fights crime. Iron Man fights international terrorism and aspiring conquerors. Thor fights eldritch horrors and cosmic gods.

Most of the characters who comprise the Avengers have better things to do than monitor police radios and thwart muggings. That's why the street-level shows add much to the setting.

edited 5th May '15 9:39:56 AM by TobiasDrake

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nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#32516: May 5th 2015 at 9:40:01 AM

[up][up]I'm pretty sure either of the two Badass Normals alone could handle it.

edited 5th May '15 9:40:35 AM by nervmeister

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#32517: May 5th 2015 at 9:46:08 AM

I certainly liked Age of Ulton's presentation of the Avengers being proactive against hydra, thanks to the Batman Cold Open.

I wish more superhero films opened up with Batman Cold Opens. They don't just flesh out the world, but also suggest the world is active even when we're not looking at it; and that the events of the films are the only events of worth. Though there is a push in cinema to make the entire story and setting literal to the screen; The Dark Knight Saga and the Peter Jackson Middle Earth films I think are the biggest examples of this. I like the storytelling in those films, but they encourage a incredibly literal interpretation, to the point where viewers insist on seeing how Bruce got back to Gothem.

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#32519: May 5th 2015 at 10:01:04 AM

Tony would like a movie where he's a mad scientist, even if he did create the villain.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#32520: May 5th 2015 at 10:02:03 AM

Hank Pym is the mad scientist. Tony Stark is the mad industrialist.

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#32522: May 5th 2015 at 10:03:08 AM

Which means Bruce is the angry scientist.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#32523: May 5th 2015 at 10:09:06 AM

Tbf, that is a major plot hole that really can't be ignored. Especially in a universe that was really trying to be as realistic as possible.

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#32524: May 5th 2015 at 10:15:21 AM

So Hank Pym, Tony Stark, and Bruce Banner walks into a bar.

Ultron walks out.

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#32525: May 5th 2015 at 10:16:22 AM

Man, Tony's Iron Man suits vary like the Playstation controllers do. Or maybe the iPhones.

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