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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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But they help her to really see! And you must really see if you want to be a spy!
edited 5th May '15 8:53:32 AM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Cracked.com's view on the MCU
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-avengers-are-bad-guys-marvel-movies/
The "% Sad truths You Learn Watching All The Marvel Films At Once" Article is actually a pretty good highlight of issues any sequential film storytelling will run into.
When you're unable to have bottle episodes, every event is going to be a catastrophe; the episodic nature means heroes and villains are often going to be reactionary rather than proactive, and yes, due to contracts, major characters in the narrative will just stop appearing.
Those criticism can apply to Pirates of The Caribbean, X-Men, Transformers, Indianna Jones and Fast and Furious I guess (I've not seen enough episodes of that franchise to comment really)
I mean, these aren't inherently bad things, but they will be easy habits to fall into Hollywood should be aware of if sequential storytelling is their next big thing for films.
The shows help with that.
Most of the Avengers are big enough in scale and scope that regular crime-fighting is sort of beneath their pay grade. Like, if Thor, the God of Thunder swoops in to stop a bank robbery, this is an incredibly slow day for Thor; he would have to be amazingly bored.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It really is just a matter of scope and scale. DareDevil fights crime. The Punisher fights crime. Iron Man fights international terrorism and aspiring conquerors. Thor fights eldritch horrors and cosmic gods.
Most of the characters who comprise the Avengers have better things to do than monitor police radios and thwart muggings. That's why the street-level shows add much to the setting.
edited 5th May '15 9:39:56 AM by TobiasDrake
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I'm pretty sure either of the two Badass Normals alone could handle it.
edited 5th May '15 9:40:35 AM by nervmeister
I certainly liked Age of Ulton's presentation of the Avengers being proactive against hydra, thanks to the Batman Cold Open.
I wish more superhero films opened up with Batman Cold Opens. They don't just flesh out the world, but also suggest the world is active even when we're not looking at it; and that the events of the films are the only events of worth. Though there is a push in cinema to make the entire story and setting literal to the screen; The Dark Knight Saga and the Peter Jackson Middle Earth films I think are the biggest examples of this. I like the storytelling in those films, but they encourage a incredibly literal interpretation, to the point where viewers insist on seeing how Bruce got back to Gothem.

Stark needs MORE lights! The more the merrier!
More people shooting at the Visible Iron Man means less people shooting at the Fleshy Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Cap!
edited 5th May '15 8:53:43 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.