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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#32251: May 4th 2015 at 1:20:19 PM

Considering Fury had popped up earlier in the movie, it was hardly a stretch. And all it did was help them evacuate the civilians, not beat Ultron for them.

I didn't really feel that Ultron was an anti-climax boss. They weren't hanging onto life by their fingertips but neither was it a sunday drive.

The trouble was in having to split their attention between robot apocalypse and giant rock and civilian protection.

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#32252: May 4th 2015 at 1:22:02 PM

Agreed. Same how Loki wasn't the only threat in the first Avengers film, it was also his army and trying to keep everyone safe.

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#32254: May 4th 2015 at 1:24:13 PM

I had assumed Madame Hydra would be a joint rights case since even though she did have some very notable storylines with Wolverine, she started off as a Captain America & Falcon villain.

Of course I have no idea what the legalities of that case are.

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#32255: May 4th 2015 at 1:25:08 PM

[up] If you say so. It just felt like the Avengers were casually tearing right through his army and Ultron himself? Zapped a little, knocked away and then ragdolled offscreen by Hulk and then offed by Scarlet Witch.

Maybe its just me, but he just didn't impress me. Even when he was choking Thor, it was the setup for a joke.

I guess I just prefer the EMH version myself.

I know Fury was shown earlier, but I felt the Helicarrier could've been better set up considering the ending of Winter Soldier.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
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#32256: May 4th 2015 at 1:25:19 PM

Everyone hates the Sentry, right?

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#32257: May 4th 2015 at 1:25:22 PM

Taking time out of the fight to try and minimize the casualties is a time-honored superhero tradition. Iron Man did it in all of his movies. Thor, the Warriors Three Plus Sif, and the Scientists Three did it in his movies. Even the Hulk and Rocket Raccoon did it. It's a thing superheroes do.

Except Superman.

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#32258: May 4th 2015 at 1:26:12 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] Who is the best Superman expy?

Like, is it Gladiator and his silly romper suit or Hyperion? Sun-god? Clearly not Sentry clearly.

[up] I actually have a friend who really appreciates that the MCU is taking the time to show that superheroing is about saving people as much as it is about punching ridiculous people in their ridiculous faces.

edited 4th May '15 1:27:53 PM by Bocaj

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#32259: May 4th 2015 at 1:28:20 PM

Gladiator. Dude rocks the Mohawk.

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#32260: May 4th 2015 at 1:28:34 PM

[up][up]Gladiator, surely. The only Hyperion story I've found remotely interesting was the one in Exiles in which he is evil and almost destroy the whole multiverse.

Anyway, I kinda liked the concept of Sentry, but he wasn't very well utilized.

[up]That too.

edited 4th May '15 1:29:08 PM by Heatth

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#32261: May 4th 2015 at 1:28:44 PM

So it is a mohawk? I've never been sure whether it was a helmet or not.

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#32262: May 4th 2015 at 1:30:08 PM

I've always thought it was part of his head or something. Dude is an alien after all. And I think his son has it too.

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#32263: May 4th 2015 at 1:31:13 PM

[up]x6 Agreed. That's why I was so thrilled by the Helicarrier's arrival. It felt like a triumph that was saying: "No, we can save the world and save the civilians in the impact zone."

edited 4th May '15 1:31:47 PM by Tuckerscreator

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#32264: May 4th 2015 at 1:32:07 PM

Sun God is the best.

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#32265: May 4th 2015 at 1:36:35 PM

My favorite is either Gladiator or Captain Mar-Vell.

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#32266: May 4th 2015 at 1:36:43 PM

It's a shame about the Sentry because there's actually some fairly interesting things you could do with a Deconstruction of Superman, as Irredeemable and Icon have shown.

The problem is the writers seemed to only be capable of every writing endless variations of the same plot for him: "The Avengers are in peril. Sentry can help but is screaming and sobbing hysterically because of his mental illness. The Avengers get beaten up and almost die. At the last second Sentry intervenes and saves everyone."

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#32267: May 4th 2015 at 1:37:53 PM

[up][up][up][up] Yes!

Prioritizing saving lives is what makes them superheroes. Without that, it's just a super-powered gang war.

edited 4th May '15 1:38:03 PM by TobiasDrake

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#32268: May 4th 2015 at 1:38:08 PM

By throwing something into the sun? Please say yes.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#32269: May 4th 2015 at 1:42:26 PM

Hey, he doesn't always do it.

It's funny because his story ends with Thor throwing his bones into the sun.

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#32270: May 4th 2015 at 1:44:08 PM

[up][up][up] Thirded

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#32271: May 4th 2015 at 2:04:27 PM

I loved the emphasis on rescuing people and keeping the collateral damage as low as possible. They had scenes like this in the first Avengers, too, but they got mostly cut so we were left with the waitress (though it might be a good thing not to see Sousa die in 2012....). This was kind of like the Anti-Man of Steel. There have been traces of this in prior movies (like Black Widow screaming at civilians to get out of the way), but this movie felt like the team shouldn't call themselves "the Avengers" but "The Protectors".

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#32272: May 4th 2015 at 2:05:27 PM

Saw Age of Ultron. Liked it a lot. Bit disappointed Falcon only showed up at the very end and wasn't involved in the fight against the Iron Legion. Loved Ultron as a villain — he's basically just evil Tony Stark. Reminds me a lot of Hades, in a way. Loved Wanda and Pietro, but mostly Wanda. Loved Clint getting some more character depth. Bit disappointed in the after-credits scene (that's not a spoiler, right? I mean, it's in every movie). Loved the Vision, though I wish they'd actually start naming superheroes on-screen for once; at least Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy have that going for them.

Overall, very nice. Tenouttaten.

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#32273: May 4th 2015 at 2:06:11 PM

TWO BUILDINGS. SUPERMAN HIMSELF KNOCKED DOWN TWO EMPTY BUILDINGS. MOST OF THE DESTRUCTION WAS CAUSED BY THE WORLD ENGINE, WHICH SUPERMAN WAS NOT THERE TO STOP, BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FUCKING PLANET, DEALING WITH THE OTHER FUCKING MACHINE. STOP FUCKING ACTING LIKE SUPERMAN PERSONALLY DESTROYED EVERY BUILDING IN METROPOLIS AND RAPED ALL THE ORPHANS WHILE FIGHTING ZOD.

Sorry.

Sorry.

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#32274: May 4th 2015 at 2:08:50 PM

Shouting helps nobody's case.

edited 4th May '15 2:10:33 PM by Tuckerscreator

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#32275: May 4th 2015 at 2:09:54 PM

[up][up]No one said Superman destroyed stuff himself. What people have complained in this thread is that the movie didn't put much focus on him saving people (or trying to).

edited 4th May '15 2:10:04 PM by Heatth


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