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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
According to Feige
there are TWO Infinity Gauntlets, and the one Thanos has is NOT the same one Odin had.
i was completely indifferent to hawkeye's presence in avengers. it's one of the main reasons i did not enjoy avengers, since his character did very little and was overall pretty dull. it felt he was only there to give natasha SOME sort of characterization, which didn't end up being particularly good anyway.
i'd actually go so far as to say avengers is the worst of the mcu movies as I was pretty bored for most of it. left an awful taste in my mouth and was one of the reasons i initially swore off seeing anything else from marvel.
edited 1st May '15 6:03:46 PM by wehrmacht
Look, assuming the Gauntlet actually does things in these movies and isn't just Thanos being practical (what, is he just gonna stick the Gems in his pocket?), why the hell would you just forge one? Then if something happens to it you're fucked.
edited 1st May '15 6:08:57 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.![]()
Except for the part where each Gauntlet apparently has a spot for six Gems. That makes no sense unless there's either twelve, or it's just a lazy revision.
And we don't know what the Gauntlet does. For all we know, it's just a specialized focal tool for the Gems so that someone can use their full concentrated power without blowing up.
edited 1st May '15 6:09:39 PM by Khfan429
No offense but we just spent the better part of a year with folks screaming that Loki's scepter couldn't POSSIBLY be the Mind Stone because Fury says it's powered by the Tesseract and Selvig says they're the same. And we know how that worked out. Clearly Marvel isn't above revising/retconning things.
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That too.
Neither of those really needs to be retconned. With our primitive Earth knowledge—I mean, these are both immensely powerful artifacts doing things we don't quite understand, but giving off similar energy readings, why wouldn't we believe one's powering the other?
Unless Selvig said that under the influence of the Mind Gem, which is supposed to give much smarts, but hey, maybe his mind just couldn't quite understand what the Mind Gem was telling him.
edited 1st May '15 6:23:58 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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I could see a situation where the gauntlet, at least in the MCU, isn't a unique or irreplaceable object but basically a glove that happens to be made of some exotic material capable of channeling the immense powers of the infinity stones. The material in question would be rare enough that anything made of it at all would be worthy of a place in Odin's treasure room, but not so rare that only one gauntlet could ever be made.
edited 1st May '15 6:25:01 PM by Falrinn
Space Vibranium!
Also I was really impressed with how they set up Civil War. They did a good job of showing the tension between Steve and Tony and their incompatible crime-fighting styles without Flanderizing either to Jerkass levels, I thought.
edited 1st May '15 6:27:17 PM by comicwriter
My biggest issue is, what's the narrative reason for it? It can't be to help the Avengers level the playing field, unless the Gauntlet has some kind of special powers on its own, but that seems incredibly unnecessary considering what the stones do on their own. Because even if there's a second tool to channel the stones, so what? They'd still need the stones, in which case they have just about as good a chance of stealing the entire Gauntlet from Thanos.
Is it maybe so Thanos could get his hands on the Gantlet without Loki having handed it over to him? Because if so there's at least one significantly better way to have handled that.
I love Marvel, but this has me extremely wary. They're not above making missteps here and there.
edited 1st May '15 6:28:40 PM by Khfan429
I say that the narrative reason for end-credits scene was mostly about showing that Thanos was dropping any semblance of subtlety and is going after the Infinity Stones directly. It's not really tied to the narrative of Ao U specifically, but to the Marvel universe as a whole. Whether the gauntlet itself is unique is irrelevant.
edited 1st May '15 6:40:51 PM by Falrinn
Yeah, but we all know it became a lot less funny later on. Hell, practically everything that happened with Pietro (the things he says to Hawkeye, being accidentally shot by a cop, and that particular part become less funny later on.
One Strip! One Strip!By the way, I thought Scarlet Witch's costume at the end of the movie
was pretty awesome.
Just saw the movie, here are my thoughts:
- It's a GOOD movie overall. I'm still debating if I wanna say it's as good as The Avengers, better, or worse. There are some things it did better than the first, while in other places....
- This film has a bit more straightforward storyline, while the first film, as good as it was, had a very obvious 3-act-structure.
- It's certainly more action-packed than the first film (where it's best fight scenes were towards the end, while here, there's a few good battle scenes throughout)
- Ummm..... so..... no more Jarvis? Will this new incarnation get its own film?
- Poor Stan Lee. Can't hold his liquor.
- Where's everyone getting this " Black Widow is infertile" thing from? I never saw that mentioned?
- Everyone's Oh, Crap! expression (especially Thor's ), when someone else successfully lifts Thor's hammer.
- Narm line: "You know I don't mind you avenging." Seriously, Whedon? Was there something wrong with just using the word, "fighting"? That's George Lucas territory there, dude.
- Fan Disservice: Agent Hill picking broken glass out of her bare feet.
- Okay, Trailer Nitpick Time: The teaser trailer, gave the impression that Rhodes would be a more main character like the others. That is certainly not the case here.
- Cool to see Falcon and Agent Carter in brief cameos. But, i really wished Falcon could have joined in the action. Okay, it may have made the film more crowded, but he could have been helpful.
- It is nice that Hawkeye got some focus this time around, but some parts seemed forced, like his pep talk to Scarlet Witch. To me it just seemed like an obvious, "See? We're giving Hawkeye more screen time! Happy now!" It didn't really feel natural (Hell it could have been Captain America in his place, and it wouldn't have made a difference).
- Also, Hawkeye having a family and kids is a little strange, since the first film implied that he and Black Widow had a recent relationship. Ummmmmmm..... was Hawkeye cheating on his wife at some point?
- Funny moment: Tony and Hawkeye play darts. No points for guessing who wins.
- Edward Norton made a great point in regards to his not coming back to the role. There's no real reason to keep playing Banner if he's just going to remain a troubled person, constantly afraid of hurting people. Mark Ruffalo is a great actor, but the writer really need to do something about Banner, and fast. He needs to just accept that he has a "Hulk out" superpower, and stay accepting of it.
- Yeah the Natasha/Banner romance thing...... not really into it.... maybe it's because we saw no lead-up to it.... maybe it's because I ship Natasha with Rogers, but.... I dunno, there didn't seem a lot of purpose for it. And it didn't pay off in any way, since Banner takes off at the end.
- Speaking of my shipping of Natasha and Rogers, I like that their kiss from Winter Soldier got referenced.
- I did enjoy myself, I laughed at a lot of parts, in fact I think it has more funny moments than the first film did, as well as more fight scenes, so on some levels, it's more enjoyable than the first film, but I don't think the storyline is necessarily original (I, Robot, anyone?).
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Apparently they retconned it so the thing in the vault isn't the Gauntlet anymore.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.