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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#31651: Apr 30th 2015 at 11:51:03 PM

One thing that doesn't make much sense to me. Why doesn't tony deck Hawkeye, Black Widow and Captain America in full Iron Man armors?

It would take away some of their strongest skills in a fight: it's hard to draw a bow while wearing armour, and it would decrease Widow's and Cap's agility. And the armours don't need people inside them in order to fight.

Also, it would make the movies boring if four of the main characters (five, counting War Machine) were just variations on Iron Man.

edited 30th Apr '15 11:51:46 PM by Galadriel

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31652: Apr 30th 2015 at 11:56:46 PM

Besides, Black Widow's specialty leands more towards espionage and the like. A suit would just draw attention and make it harder to do her job.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#31653: May 1st 2015 at 1:29:54 AM

There was an off-hand remark concerning them getting clothes which provide more protection, though.

I have still not decided where I should put the movie on my favourite list...I guess it would be easier if I hadn't disliked the Black Widow subplot so much.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#31654: May 1st 2015 at 4:12:26 AM

God damn it.

That was the worst movie. I fucking hated it. How dare they cut Cap off before he says Avengers Assemble!

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#31655: May 1st 2015 at 4:35:29 AM

On the Agents of Shield connection I'm pretty sure the carrier isn't the Theta protocol, seeing as the carrier in Ao U is the one belonging to 'Real' Shield, that right there is the connection I'm pretty sure.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#31656: May 1st 2015 at 4:51:13 AM

[up][up]Oh that...I thought the Whedon was trolling the audience, because everyone complained about the lack of the call in the first part...

[up] I am not sure if it is or not. We'll know soon, I guess.

edited 1st May '15 4:51:44 AM by Swanpride

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#31657: May 1st 2015 at 5:01:54 AM

[up] We know it's the same one, the hull number is the same as the one in the first film and the one in the show is confirmed (via twitter word of god) to be the one from the first film.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#31658: May 1st 2015 at 8:19:12 AM

Ah, didn't catch that, thanks.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#31660: May 1st 2015 at 10:46:46 AM

BTW did anyone else catch the nod to Jocasta?

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#31661: May 1st 2015 at 10:48:27 AM

I caught it the second go round.

By the way, is Friday still Irish in America?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#31662: May 1st 2015 at 10:52:42 AM

Note: Spoilers in the above space. Be wary.

So, am I the only one pissed that they killed off Quicksilver?

I suspect that him dying this is so that Fox can have Quicksilver, while Marvel can use the Scarlet Witch.

That being said however, I'm desperately hoping there's still a sample of that crazy Kree blood left. I mean, this is exactly what it was made for.

edited 1st May '15 10:53:11 AM by HandsomeRob

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#31663: May 1st 2015 at 10:55:13 AM

[up][up]Yes, though I didn't notice it for a bit.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#31664: May 1st 2015 at 11:00:09 AM

Oh thank gods it's opened in the rest of the world!

I've been sitting on this for a week and it's killing me!

....And now i find I actually have nothing to say. Carry on.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#31665: May 1st 2015 at 11:02:43 AM

[up][up]

I was okay with them killing Quicksilver. Someone had to die in the movie, and I missed that character less than I would plenty of the others.

It creates interesting character directions for Scarlet Witch in the future, because she has to deal with the fact that something she started - Tony created Ultron the way he did, and at the speed he did, because of the vision she gave him - ended up killing her brother, the only person she was really close to.

Also, it means that the new Avengers are less of a white-guy club than the old Avengers: in the movie's ending scene, I count two black guys, two white women, one white guy, and one red-coloured android.

edited 1st May '15 11:05:59 AM by Galadriel

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#31666: May 1st 2015 at 11:22:01 AM

[up] It means there's a token android. Terrible.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#31668: May 1st 2015 at 11:37:02 AM

[up][up]At least the token doesn't conform to the stereotype of A.I. Is a Crapshoot. Not all androids want to kill humanity!

Also, I liked this movie. Still digesting thoughts about it, probably will post a full review later.

edited 1st May '15 11:37:22 AM by Tuckerscreator

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#31670: May 1st 2015 at 12:02:35 PM

Or the stereotype of Blunt Metaphors Trauma, either. So happy to have an AI character who actually understands how language works (come on, that's not a difficult thing to program compared to, oh, making an AI in the first place). And who has emotions.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#31671: May 1st 2015 at 12:10:56 PM

Doesn't JARVIS have that beat since the first Iron Man?

edited 1st May '15 12:11:10 PM by GethKnight

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#31672: May 1st 2015 at 12:12:35 PM

Metaphors don't go over the Vision's head. His reflexes are too fast, he would catch them.

It does amuse me how Tony Stark apparently adds a Sarcasm Subroutine to all the machines he creates. Jarvis, Ultron, Friday etc.

edited 1st May '15 12:12:55 PM by PurpleDalek

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#31673: May 1st 2015 at 12:21:32 PM

He'll probably get bored talking to them if they didn't.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#31674: May 1st 2015 at 12:38:51 PM

[up][up]What I find amusing is that the real Jarvis is not as sarcastic as J.A.R.V.I.S., which means that even when basing his AI on someone real, he still make a point of making them extra sarcastic.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31675: May 1st 2015 at 12:40:28 PM

I'm seeing this negative review really make the rounds: http://ilvalentinos.tumblr.com/post/117153967188/age-of-ultron-review-at-least-we-know-this-is-the

How much of this do you think is applicable and how much of it is the usual Tumblr not being able to separate canon from fanon/shipping and Accentuate the Negative in the form of "look for hidden Unfortunate Implications" mentality?


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