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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#31252: Apr 23rd 2015 at 7:59:50 AM

[up] yeah, that was just awful. Fucking hell, Renner and Evans need to apologize or something.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#31253: Apr 23rd 2015 at 8:02:32 AM

We'll be getting a ton of deleted scenes on the AOU DVD because a LOT of shit got cut this time, apparently.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#31255: Apr 23rd 2015 at 8:12:02 AM

To give an example of how much must have been cut in this already long and slow movie: Selvig has three lines and has no reason at all for why Thor needs him to go with him to the cave. I'm guessing a deleted scene actually had Selvig as the only one who knew where that cave was.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#31256: Apr 23rd 2015 at 8:23:43 AM

From what I hear about the animated Spider-Man movie, apparently it's going to be the new Origin Story.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#31257: Apr 23rd 2015 at 8:27:41 AM

Well, some of my favourite reviewers have already seen it. People in whose taste I trust and who have a lot of knowledge about writing and/or movies. And they all say that it is a good movie. Either at least as good as "The Avengers" just without the fun of seeing those characters together for the first time, or even better than "The Avengers". I'll know for sure in two days, but I am not worried at all. I think I'll have a blast, as long as my expectations are not unrealistic high.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31258: Apr 23rd 2015 at 8:41:20 AM

I'm curious but how many of the film's problems do you consider to be caused by the accumulated weight of the MCU and execs shoehorning things, and how much of it do you think is due to Whedon's own inadequacies? I apologize if this question's worded a little meanspiritedly, but no director is perfect and as people have mentioned before in this thread Whedon has some recurring issues like writing all his characters too samey.

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#31259: Apr 23rd 2015 at 8:42:24 AM

...wait, we're gonna have an animated MCU film?

Fuck it, they accepted raccoon, they'll accept cartoon.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31260: Apr 23rd 2015 at 8:48:04 AM

It's still by Sony. The deal means Marvel can use him in MCU crossovers and has the power of significant oversight over the upcoming Spider-Man film. I think.

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#31261: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:12:29 AM

Saw a midnight screening. Needless to say, it's great fun. The character work is as sharp as ever but there's too much going on and many plot points feel undercooked. Anyway, if I may make a list:

  • There's a genuine sense of camaraderie between the Avengers this time round, especially near the beginning. They're still a disparate group in some ways, but they definitely feel more like friends this time.

  • Scarlet Witch's powers are very ill defined. I'm still not sure what her powers were. Telekinesis and causing hallucinations, I think?

  • At the end of the film, Ultron and the Vision have a conversation about the pros and cons of humanity. It reminded me of old school sci-fi.

  • Hawkeye actually gets stuff to do this time. Amusingly, at my screening they were handing out Avengers themed drink cups. Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, the Hulk, Black Widow and even Ultron all had their own cups, but poor Hawkeye didn't get one.

  • There's a wonderful scene near the end of the film where Cap muses on the Fridge Logic of Thor's hammer.

  • Andy Serkis is only in one scene but he really makes the most of it.

  • Aaron Johnson was serviceable but they don't really do anything visually inventive with Quicksilver's powers. Honestly, the X-Men: Days of Future Past version of the character is much more memorable.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#31262: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:36:31 AM

And now I'm mad that it's out earlier in Europe than it is here. TWO WEEKS. ARRRRRRGH

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#31263: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:39:44 AM

I just saw the animated Spider-Man opens in July. They better not delay Panther AGAIN.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#31264: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:49:18 AM

Is the Vision an actual character and not some kind of Deus ex Machina?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#31265: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:50:39 AM

He gets some very good lines and some neat interactions but yeah the manner he's introduced is kinda deus ex machina-y and he only appears just before the final battle.

edited 23rd Apr '15 9:51:01 AM by comicwriter

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#31266: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:51:39 AM

He's not in the film much, but Paul Bettany really makes it work. To me, Vision's the best of the new characters.

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#31267: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:56:19 AM

Is it really a Deus Ex Machina if half the plot of the film sets it up?

I actually prefer Taylor-Johnson's Quicksilver, simply because his awesomeness is spread across the film, and not condensed into one scene and then left out in the final battle.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#31268: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:58:28 AM

Honestly, if Marvel puts reasonable limitations on Quicksilver, they have already won in my book. In the end I take what is good for the plot in the long run over one visually pleasing scene, no matter how awesome it is.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#31269: Apr 23rd 2015 at 9:58:32 AM

I've only seen one real clip of him and already I'm annoyed by his attitude. "Oh look at me, I'm fast, you didn't see that coming even though your reflexes can hardly keep up with me and thus you can't?" I'm personally hoping he tries to do that with Steve and gets knocked flat on his ass.

edited 23rd Apr '15 9:59:34 AM by theLibrarian

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#31270: Apr 23rd 2015 at 10:01:46 AM

He's a proud idiot who tries to steal mjolnir when he runs past it and ends up flat on the floor when it keeps going.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#31271: Apr 23rd 2015 at 10:03:56 AM

[up][up]I'm surprised Cocky Speedster isn't a trope yet, because that seems to be a reoccuring theme with that Super power.

edit you know what, I'm off to the YKTTW page.

edited 23rd Apr '15 10:05:12 AM by Lionheart0

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#31272: Apr 23rd 2015 at 10:03:58 AM

[up][up][up][up] The stuff with the Infinity Gems and the synthetic body yeah, but I just wasn't too enthused with the way he was finally introduced RIGHT before the finale so he can have his big conversation with Ultron and then finish him. I did like the birth scene however.

edited 23rd Apr '15 10:04:12 AM by comicwriter

PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#31273: Apr 23rd 2015 at 10:04:38 AM

For me, it's not just the one scene that makes me prefer Evan Peters' Quicksilver. The kitchen scene in Days of Future Past is fantastic but I also dig his kleptomania and his wonderfully terrible Seventies fashion and hair.

I don't know. I've seen Aaron Johnson in quite a few things now and he's always stuck me as a decent enough actor, but not a very charismatic or memorable screen presence.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#31274: Apr 23rd 2015 at 10:07:02 AM

[up]Of the new characters he definitely leaves the least amount of impact. Scarlet Witch and Vision vastly outshine him.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#31275: Apr 23rd 2015 at 10:08:10 AM

So basically, Age of Ultron makes Amazing Spider-Man 2 look simplistic and straightforward?

edited 23rd Apr '15 10:08:28 AM by spashthebandragon

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.

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